Best Monitor Solution for A1 and 35mm Adapters?

I had a Swit Varizoom and found it very tricky to focus with so I returned it. Today I tested the Panasonic and the Ikan side by side. For sure the Panasonic is great because of all the features (red focus assist, wave form, pixel to pixel, etc.). However, I must say, the Ikan was not bad for focusing either. It does not have those assist features, but the image looked good enough for focusing. I only tested it indoors, though, so I don't know how it would do outdoors. Anyone tested it outdoors?
The big disappointment I had with the Panasonic was the weight. I use the Redrock M2 and sometimes do handheld work with the Zacuto, so I must have an on-camera LCD that I can use in the front of me for framing and focusing. With the Panasonic the whole setup became much more front-heavy, almost too much to be comfortable. Also, the monitor seemed too heavy for the israeli arm. It seemed alright if I didn't move too much or didn't tilt and pan too quickly. But otherwise the arm didn't feel right with so much weight on it.
I haven't tried the Marshall or the Nebtek, but I've read some complaints that the Marshall is also very heavy. Checking on the descriptions on the web I found the following: Ikan 1.07 Lbs, Marshall 1.8Lbs, Nebtek 2.5 Lbs, Panasonic 3.3 Lbs, .
I was leaning towards the Nebtek, but after having this bad experience with the Panasonic, it seems the Nebtek might be on the heavy side too? Has anyone tried it on a handheld setup? Also, does it have loop troughput?
 
Kdawg said:
It appears we are spiking off the charts of this post. We have 7 to 8 inch portable battery driven LCD monitors, then we go to computer monitors, and now TV's? Hopefully in the audio section a post about location headphones does not turn into the best pc speakers, then a 5.1 kenwood surround system.
Click to expand...


No, good sir, we're not spiking off the charts of this post. Look at the post's title. I'm still curious to discuss all options; why should computer LCDs and HDTVs be ruled out of discussion because they're not camera mountable?

I bet I'm not the only one who's curious about all the options; please indulge us!
 
Kdawg said:
HAHA, I was thinking how will that work in the field? But a hotshoe mount would be perfect.
Click to expand...

Thank you, thank you. Yes, we've gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.

BUT in all seriousness....Metro I do see your point, and it was hit on in your original post. Myself, I'm in the market for a Marshall, Ikan or similar. Don't need to be lugging a 19" HDTV out in the field!
 
:)

Obviously some monitors ain't gonna work in the field. But there are degrees of being "in the field." In the woods, out on the street - forget it!

But if you're shooting interiors, not even in a proper studio, those HDTVs and computer LCDs suddenly seem kinda attractive, do they not? Somewhat more a pain, and not as mobile for moving cameras, surely. But the Sharp or Westinghouse for instance would almost certainly also have some major advantages over even the best mountables - the Ikan or Marshall, the Carrion. I wouldn't be surprised if color rendition was as good or better. Not to mention a much larger pixel count, i.e. focusing should be a breeze - on something 1/2 or 1/3 as expensive!

Can anyone comment on those two monitors (the Sharp and Westinghouse)? I just read the Westinghouse does in fact do 1:1 pixel mapping. So although it's 16:10, it can display a 16:9 1080p image undistorted (with black bars). And 1080p unscaled; it's 1920x1200. For under $400, this seems like a pretty interesting option, no?
 
Hi guys, sorry to divert abit... Noob question coming thru.

Whats the major difference in picture if i use this for my A1.

A) IKAN 8" SD LCD Monitor

B) IKAN 8" HD LCD Monitor

Will it be harder to focus n all?

Regards
 
Metrolens said:
So what's the best monitor to use with say the Brevis? QUOTE]

If youre talking the small LCD HD monitors then panasonic is the best. I hear theres a new Sony and a JVC coming out though - so if your thinking of top $ then you may want to wait.


The larger broadcast monitors for me are just a pain in the arse because of size and are more suited when I am editing. Also you have to be careful with using just large screen HD TVS, because they are NOT broadcast monitors. They often have X Y Z applied to enhance the image coming through and cannot be correctly calibrated.

Monitors serve three main purposes for me 1/ focus assist when I cant physically measure it. 2/ Color representation. 3/ contrast representation.

And on all three the small Panasonic pulled the other monitors I have used pants down and spanked them.

For a cheaper monitor I would look long and hard at Siniarchs, its using the Panasonic screen.
Click to expand...
 
ouch baby! That is one expensive monitor. I'm sure it's great. What, on paper, makes it better than the aforementioned Carrion?
 
We have the Westinghouse L2410NM. There is no 1:1 pixel mapping through component. I believe that only works in HDMI. Maybe there's an adapter available somewhere. Other than that, it's bright and has a wide viewing angle, great for focusing.
 
hey jleo, actually I just bought one of those Westinghouses to test it out and... actually yes it does do 1:1 pixel mapping via component! The image was displayed perfectly in 16:9, no stretching, with black bars on top and bottom. You have to switch the aspect to "Normal" from "Full" and you will see the difference.

If yours doesn't do that, it might be a firmware question. The one I bought had firmware v1.1. I know some people have firmware v1.0.

Btw I returned the monitor because it had some defects. But I agree - the Westinghouse looks to be a great low cost (non-mountable!) option.
 
Thanks Metrolens. I see it now. Works great. Might get an extra one of these, put it in a suitcase with a cooling fan! Those sidemounted Menu buttons are horrible! Need a rear view mirror to see which ones you're pressing. The price of this keeps dropping $100 each month at our local Best Buy. From $699 to $399. In 4 months they should be free :)
 
Hey guys,
if any of you are going to DV Expo in Burbank CA tomorrow, my monitor will be displayed at the Redrock booth. I am bringing the demo unit to them tonight, and if I get a cable tomorrow morning, I should be bringing them the first production unit.
I should also be there tomorrow at some point, if you want to meet, send me a PM and we can drool over all the stuff I can't afford. hehhehe.
Thanks,
Luis
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top