"MEAT" - short film by Andrew Olson
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Jason Ramsey
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I wanted to add that out of the films I have seen so far, this one has the best acting. It was the most effective and it worked very well from start to finish in that regard. Still don't think the ending fits the vibe of the rest of it though 
But, hey, that's just me.
Later,
Jason
But, hey, that's just me.Later,
Jason
Chris Messineo
Veteran
This was great.
It was twisted, but in the best way. My favorite shot was the look on his face, when he's cooking his hand, fantastic.
This was a wonderfully dark story. Well told and acted. It had me laughing and watching through my fingers at the same time.
It was twisted, but in the best way. My favorite shot was the look on his face, when he's cooking his hand, fantastic.
This was a wonderfully dark story. Well told and acted. It had me laughing and watching through my fingers at the same time.
andoguru
"Meat" & "Egg" Member
Hey everyone,
Thanks Simonb.
Thanks Jason. I've always thought my friend is a very good actor. He likes to be behind the camera probably more than in front, but I hope to encourage him to stay in front of it as much at least. I want to convince you that it is the right ending the way it is, but to each his own. That's why this is such a great artistic medium because there can be so many points of view and stories told in different ways that each viewer can interpret in their own way as well.
Chris Messineo: Thanks a lot for the comments. I'm glad you liked that shot of him watching his hand cook...I actually directed the actor to play that take like that just to see how it went and it ended up being the one I used. Thanks for watching.
Best,
Ando
Thanks Simonb.
Thanks Jason. I've always thought my friend is a very good actor. He likes to be behind the camera probably more than in front, but I hope to encourage him to stay in front of it as much at least. I want to convince you that it is the right ending the way it is, but to each his own. That's why this is such a great artistic medium because there can be so many points of view and stories told in different ways that each viewer can interpret in their own way as well.
Chris Messineo: Thanks a lot for the comments. I'm glad you liked that shot of him watching his hand cook...I actually directed the actor to play that take like that just to see how it went and it ended up being the one I used. Thanks for watching.
Best,
Ando
Ando,
I liked your film, I thought the lighting and acting were great. The transition from a tip of the finger to whole body parts made the film more realistic. Having spent some time in Korea I've often wondered what animals/ body parts I may have eaten. Look forward to watching more of your films, take care.
Jeff
I liked your film, I thought the lighting and acting were great. The transition from a tip of the finger to whole body parts made the film more realistic. Having spent some time in Korea I've often wondered what animals/ body parts I may have eaten. Look forward to watching more of your films, take care.
Jeff
Michael Anthony Horrigan
More Cowbell Pictures
I see you did a fair amount of reviews last night... still waiting for mine! :laugh:
I watched your film again and I'm going to add a little more of an in-depth review.
The movie looked great! Nice DOF with the adapter. I wish I had one.
I loved the actor as well, he was spot on and very into it. The moment when he takes that first bite is my favourite of the movie.
Now, some people think that you should have went all the way and had him consume himself. I don't. I would have preferred for him to notice the children playing outside earlier. Maybe just a hand and an ear missing. Have him shake it off and try to resist the urge.
Then have the doorbell ring later that evening... maybe a girl scout shows up. A few more shots of the frying pan and a shot of the guy stuffing little legs into the freezer. Maybe a little too dark, but if he was going to contemplate eating kids I think he would have done it sooner.
As is, you have a great movie and it really worked for me.
Can't wait to see your next one!
From one HV20 user to another. Well done.
Cheers,
Mike
I watched your film again and I'm going to add a little more of an in-depth review.
The movie looked great! Nice DOF with the adapter. I wish I had one.
I loved the actor as well, he was spot on and very into it. The moment when he takes that first bite is my favourite of the movie.
Now, some people think that you should have went all the way and had him consume himself. I don't. I would have preferred for him to notice the children playing outside earlier. Maybe just a hand and an ear missing. Have him shake it off and try to resist the urge.
Then have the doorbell ring later that evening... maybe a girl scout shows up. A few more shots of the frying pan and a shot of the guy stuffing little legs into the freezer. Maybe a little too dark, but if he was going to contemplate eating kids I think he would have done it sooner.
As is, you have a great movie and it really worked for me.
Can't wait to see your next one!
From one HV20 user to another. Well done.
Cheers,
Mike
MOVIE MASTER
Veteran
good stuff I enjoyed it from begining to end!!!
andoguru
"Meat" & "Egg" Member
Thanks for the comments guys.
jvi97: Thanks man. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Was it Korea where it's okay to boil cats to eat?
Kyser: Thanks, Mike. I actually had some scenes where we see the kids outside earlier, but I thought it slowed the film down too much and didn't start where we needed to focus first. For me, I wanted the audience to be completely focused on the character consuming himself like the rest of the world didn't exist. Then when he breaks down and realizes that he can't keep doing this forever the kids come in.
I laughed when you talked about the girl scout showing up and then him stuff little legs in the freezer, but that was something that would probably happen later on in this char's life. I wanted to focus on this short period of his evolution to becoming possibly a cannibal murderer.
Thanks Movie Master for checking my short out.
Laters,
Ando
jvi97: Thanks man. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Was it Korea where it's okay to boil cats to eat?
Kyser: Thanks, Mike. I actually had some scenes where we see the kids outside earlier, but I thought it slowed the film down too much and didn't start where we needed to focus first. For me, I wanted the audience to be completely focused on the character consuming himself like the rest of the world didn't exist. Then when he breaks down and realizes that he can't keep doing this forever the kids come in.
I laughed when you talked about the girl scout showing up and then him stuff little legs in the freezer, but that was something that would probably happen later on in this char's life. I wanted to focus on this short period of his evolution to becoming possibly a cannibal murderer.
Thanks Movie Master for checking my short out.
Laters,
Ando
Michele Seidman
Well-known member
Ando
I finally got to see Meat. Acting...top notch. Idea...omg how insanely gruesome yet funny somehow. I almost felt as if I was watching the Road Runner cartoon all over. You know how that darned Coyote has the means to call Acme and get things drop shipped but can't seem to order dinner in...Well for me...watching your film to the end was like finally seeing that darned Coyote figuring it out!
And still so disturbing at the same time. Loved it!
Michele
I finally got to see Meat. Acting...top notch. Idea...omg how insanely gruesome yet funny somehow. I almost felt as if I was watching the Road Runner cartoon all over. You know how that darned Coyote has the means to call Acme and get things drop shipped but can't seem to order dinner in...Well for me...watching your film to the end was like finally seeing that darned Coyote figuring it out!
And still so disturbing at the same time. Loved it!
Michele
Michele Seidman
Well-known member
Ando
I found it interesting to note that your actor was also an editor on the project. Please pass this on to him...
I knew an actor who had been an editor for 20 years and still did the acting on the side. When he decided to retired from editing and just do the acting...he started booking work left and right.
I have a theory about him from the comments the casting people made (i was an agent at the time and his agent). All the casting people made comments on his reactions and closing shots during auditions. I had this feeling that he learned more from editing about acting than in acting classes...BUT before people stop taking classes I need to clarify that he did study at one of the best studios in California first.
I think as en editor he started to understand what work of an actors remained behind in the project and what did not. I think he saw how over the top stuff got chopped and the subtle stuff spoke volumes. He shared some of what he learned and I started coaching my students to work hard on their closing reactions (always worked on reaction but added this factor).
Your 'actor' may want to stay behind the scenes but he really can act and has a great 'every man' quality to him which could mean some decent work too! Just tell him I said not to give up the idea....it would be a pity because he handled that part so well.
His reactions...so subtle...yet they spoke loudly...loved it!
andoguru
"Meat" & "Egg" Member
Hey Michele,
I think you made a very good point about how being an editor or actually any other facet of the filmmaking process can help strengthen another aspect, in this case acting.
I definitely feel that Everett's(the actor) acting has benefitted from being behind the camera and in post-production. When someone gets to be along on a project from Pre-production to production to post-production, it really helps to open the eyes to why things are done the way they are.
Oh, don't worry about Everett...he will always be in front of the camera because he loves the attention and usually casts himself in all his own projects which has never seemed to hurt it. I'll post some of the other stuff we have worked on together...most of the time it is him in front and helping behind as well.
Laters,
Ando
I think you made a very good point about how being an editor or actually any other facet of the filmmaking process can help strengthen another aspect, in this case acting.
I definitely feel that Everett's(the actor) acting has benefitted from being behind the camera and in post-production. When someone gets to be along on a project from Pre-production to production to post-production, it really helps to open the eyes to why things are done the way they are.
Oh, don't worry about Everett...he will always be in front of the camera because he loves the attention and usually casts himself in all his own projects which has never seemed to hurt it. I'll post some of the other stuff we have worked on together...most of the time it is him in front and helping behind as well.
Laters,
Ando
Michele Seidman
Well-known member
I totally agree and trust me...I am learning lot just from reading the posts and debating points. I have been at this a long time but seldom does the actor get to watch the inner workings and that is a shame. I think if more of us had a better vision of the final look we could give a better performance in general. I was luck with Jack...he gave me plenty to work with but that was rare...and I have worked with some good names too.
Geoff_R
Veteran
Ando, Nice flick. It was definitely something new and refreshing (refreshing seems like such an odd word choice when discussing this film...) But yes...it was refreshing to view something so different from what one might expect in this fest. This was definitely the strongest character piece of the fest. His arc is so well executed and I love the ending even though I kind of knew and hoped it would go there. I realized you had won me over at the following point...your character is watching the kids outside and in my mind I'm saying, "Yes! Eat them you idiot! Eat them, not yourself!"
Congrats on a well executed piece!
Congrats on a well executed piece!
andoguru
"Meat" & "Egg" Member
Hey Geoff,
"This is crazy...eating myself...I should be eating other people!" is what I said in my head when I first thought of this script. I'm glad you posted about that particular scene of it.
Sometimes, with a punchline in a joke or in a movie, the audience is going to know what is coming and hope that it is coming and that's not a bad thing because I think there can be a connection there, where the audience enjoys the fact that they can tell what was going to happen next just a little before it happens. I know I do.
Thanks for comments and kudos for the stunning cinematography on "Welcome to the Party."
Laters,
Ando
"This is crazy...eating myself...I should be eating other people!" is what I said in my head when I first thought of this script. I'm glad you posted about that particular scene of it.
Sometimes, with a punchline in a joke or in a movie, the audience is going to know what is coming and hope that it is coming and that's not a bad thing because I think there can be a connection there, where the audience enjoys the fact that they can tell what was going to happen next just a little before it happens. I know I do.
Thanks for comments and kudos for the stunning cinematography on "Welcome to the Party."
Laters,
Ando
Michele Seidman
Well-known member
Geoff
YES YES...I so agree!
And also agree with Ando on your camera work Geoff...on Welcome to the Party....but I did not know it was you until just now. I especially love the shots towards the end when she is running around...something about them managed to be tight and frenetic at the same time...does that even make sense when I say that?...
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Brandon Rice
Distributed Producer
congrats for 2nd!
Conrgats. Voted you in my top three as well. Simple idea done really well and a lot of fun too.
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Matt Harris
Veteran
The performance was great for sure, but the directing sold it for me as well. great camera placements and an overall confident look / approach. on my first viewing of MEAT i knew it was going to place. Congrats!