Removing all CC in a project?

PerroneFord

PerroneFord

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Well,

Now that I have installed Vegas Pro 8, all the color correction in my existing projects looks like ummm... well it looks bad.

Soooo... is there a way to remove ALL color correction from all clips? I've got 2.5 hours of footage in this one project with 40 tracks of video and I am hoping I don't have to remove all the CC by hand.

Thanks,

-P
 
Did you change the project to 32-bit floating point? For this one, you might be better off just staying in 8-bit.
 
That's a band-aid, but it doesn't really address the core issue. The CC effects simply behave differently in the 32-bit environment than they do in 8-bit. Better to start over -- or in this case, perhaps stay in 8-bit and finish out the project the way it was started.

Besides, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you think about it -- why would you select a 32-bit environment and then want to emulate 8-bit?

Perrone, you may be able to find a free script which can remove all VFX. Start with VASST.com and see what they have.
 
>why would you select a 32-bit environment and then want to emulate 8-bit?

Because the gamma of 32bit is terrible. I tried using both the gamma values presets and both were really dark on my TV. I had to apply the CC plugin preset to get it viewable on my TV. It's not about "emulating" the 8bit look, it's about making it look right on the final destination -- usually the TV.
 
David Jimerson said:
That's a band-aid, but it doesn't really address the core issue. The CC effects simply behave differently in the 32-bit environment than they do in 8-bit. Better to start over -- or in this case, perhaps stay in 8-bit and finish out the project the way it was started.

Besides, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you think about it -- why would you select a 32-bit environment and then want to emulate 8-bit?

Perrone, you may be able to find a free script which can remove all VFX. Start with VASST.com and see what they have.
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Thanks David, I'll start looking.

It's taken me forever to get to this point with this short anyway, so if I have to re-do it by hand, I'll live with it. I've already converted to 32 bit on this project. It's no biggie in terms of a time window, I was just hoping to save myself some work.
 
Eugenia Loli-Queru said:
>why would you select a 32-bit environment and then want to emulate 8-bit?

Because the gamma of 32bit is terrible. I tried using both the gamma values presets and both were really dark on my TV. I had to apply the CC plugin preset to get it viewable on my TV. It's not about "emulating" the 8bit look, it's about making it look right on the final destination -- usually the TV.
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The gamma is different, but that's not the same as "terrible." I find the 32-bit space delightful.

Like I said, the FX tools behave differently in 32-bit. If you have a clip with no FX on it at all, it will look exactly the same between 32-bit and 8-bit. It's only after you add FX that you'll see differences.

Sure, if you did CC in 8-bit and then switch to 32-bit, you may not like what you see. But that's not the workflow you should use -- if you're going to end up in 32-bit, you should start in 32-bit. Otherwise, it's not too different from CCing only on a computer monitor and then watching on a TV -- because the color and gamma responses between the two are so different, what looked great on the computer monitor may look absolutely dreadful on a TV, but you had no way of seeing that using only the computer monitor. Same thing for CCing in 8-bit and then switching over to 32-bit.
 
PerroneFord said:
Thanks David, I'll start looking.

It's taken me forever to get to this point with this short anyway, so if I have to re-do it by hand, I'll live with it. I've already converted to 32 bit on this project. It's no biggie in terms of a time window, I was just hoping to save myself some work.
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Fair enough -- but if it helps, you can switch back to 8-bit any time you want.
 
And that's because you applied the FX in 8-bit space and then switched over. You can't do that and expect a good result.
 
ACTUALLY, I take that back. It appears to make a slight difference with uncorrected HDV, which I hadn't tried because I never use it. Didn't see a difference in other types of footage (DV, DVCPRO).

8bit

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32 Bit

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Footage is from an HV20.
 
What's the difference between 32bit Linear (1.000) Compositing gamma and Video (2.222)? Linear seems to be nicer to work with, as Video seems like it works more like 8 bit.
 
The 2.222 is there if you import a project you've already been working in 8-bit with. From what I can tell, it's not a complete success.

But if you're starting from scratch, use 1.000.
 
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