Windows XP or Vista

ddavis

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Just bought the HVX-200 and must (quickly) make workflow decisions. Panasonic's website says that the P2 reader only works on XP. Is this old information? Can I purchase a new Vista laptop and use it to read/store P2 data? If so, what specs are required other than the obvious card slot, USB 2.0 and 1394 IEEE ports? Sorry, but I've really tried to find out this information by searching (here and at Panasonic and elsewhere) I've got The HVX Book, too, but it's not quite up-to-date on this stuff. Thanks...
 
The P2 drivers are compatible with 32-bit XP and Vista. There currently is no support for 64-bit.

The best way to offload P2 cards is using a PCMCIA/PCCard (not ExpressCard!) slot because it allows you to shoot continuously if you have two or more P2 cards.

If you want to offload using USB2 (the only direct connection supported under Windows), you must take the camera out of recording mode, enter MCR mode, establish a USB connection, offload, and then turn the camera off and back on since there is no way to get out of the USB connection mode.

If you buy a laptop that has a ExpressCard slot, Duel Systems makes an adapter that lets you read P2 cards.
 
That's good news. Thanks.
Does anyone know specifics about speed, RAM, etc? And any recommendations on USB powered hard drives to offload the data to at the end of the day. We'll be in rugged conditions (mountain tops in Yosemite), so everything has to be battery powered.
Thanks
 
Even a low-end laptop will work for offloading. I have an old Toshiba 1.5GHz P4M that works just fine for offloading P2 cards and even recording live using DV Rack 2.1 HD.

There are two additional offloading methods you can use that don't involve the use of computers.

You can use a USB OTG (On The Go) drive to read the contents of the P2 cards, in which case the USB OTG device is responsible for the transfer and verification.

The second option is using a SBP2 (Serial Bus Protocol 2) compatible Firewire drive and putting the camera in IEEE HOST mode. In this case the camera controls the hard drive, handles offloading, and even formatting the drive using FAT32.

Please note that in either case, the hard drive has to supply its own power. But this opens up your choices considerably, you can select a drive based on your storage requirements, battery capacity, ruggedness etc.
 
Thanks. I'm thinking that since I only have two 16 gig cards that I'll need to be offloading to a computer and hotswapping the cards. I'm afraid I'd miss opportunities otherwise.

What do you edit with? I have Avid Xpress Pro HD and I hear of people having problems with P2 stuff and others say they love it.

And since you're in CA, know anyone that's anywhere near Yosemite that has a really long lens and can shoot 1080i (preferred) or 720 (acceptable)?
 
I edit using Edius 4 Broadcast.

I'm not sure who is up near Yosemite. If you are looking for nature / wildlife / landscape shots with the HVX, look for Kevin Railsback's posts or those from Overland Films.

Also, the HVX can record 1080p. It is embedded in a 1080i stream, but it is still progressive with no interlacing artifacts.
 
Thanks. Yes, but network demands 1080i, not p. I'm still searching for some answers and finally, when attempting to download the P2 Viewer, I got a list of specs. For DVCPRO HD viewing, it seems I need quite the souped-up computer. Pentium D-3.2 GHz or greater and 1 Gig of RAM or more. Yikes. Do you know whether or not I can still upload (and maybe just not view) with less? Man, I love the camera, but feel like a pioneer entering new territory!
 
You shoot 1080/24p or 1080/30p, which is recoded just like 1080i .. then when you deliver to the network, you are delivering 1080i (per their requirement) that just happens to contain a progresivly captured picture. Cool huh?

- Mikko
 
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Yes, P2 Viewer works on lower-end systems like my aforementioned 1.5GHz P4M. You can't play HD in realtime on it, but it runs and is suitable for reviewing footage.
 
You shoot 1080/24p or 1080/30p, which is recoded just like 1080i .. then when you deliver to the network, you are delivering 1080i (per their requirement) that just happens to contain a progresivly captured picture. Cool huh?

- Mikko

OK, Mikko, assume I'm a real dummy here (which must be true:huh: ) but what would the advantage of that be? Sharper picture? or what?

And THoff, thanks again...maybe I'm on the wrong track, trying to get a computer that does a lot of stuff and really all I need is something to pass the data through to hard drives. It's not like I'll edit on the laptop. I'll hook my drives up to my Avid workstation. I'm just scared silly that I'll do something wrong and waste all that time and money. Reminds me of when I used to shoot film...
 
ALSO I'd like to add that Windows Vista is NOT compatible with Avid Xpress Pro... Just in case that's your editing system...
A friend bought a brand new dell, with Vista, just to find out that Avid has NOT updated its Xpress Pro to be compatible with Vista, SOOOOO he had to downgrade and buy XP... what a downer...
 
Right, but I'll stick to my XP Pro workstation for editing. I just need something basic to complete my workflow in the field from P2 card to hard drive, but not using the camera.
 
Even a low-end laptop will work for offloading. I have an old Toshiba 1.5GHz P4M that works just fine for offloading P2 cards and even recording live using DV Rack 2.1 HD.

There are two additional offloading methods you can use that don't involve the use of computers.

You can use a USB OTG (On The Go) drive to read the contents of the P2 cards, in which case the USB OTG device is responsible for the transfer and verification.

The second option is using a SBP2 (Serial Bus Protocol 2) compatible Firewire drive and putting the camera in IEEE HOST mode. In this case the camera controls the hard drive, handles offloading, and even formatting the drive using FAT32.

Please note that in either case, the hard drive has to supply its own power. But this opens up your choices considerably, you can select a drive based on your storage requirements, battery capacity, ruggedness etc.
I was wondering if there are any copy's still available of the DV RACK 2.1 HD still for sale out there. Adobe has stop selling it as a stand alone program and called it 'ON LOCATION' in a bundle with Premiere Pro CS3. I just don't want to buy the ADOBE program just to get a part of the bundle. Anyone know where to go?
Thanks,
 
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