How long to transfer 200 gb to DVDs?
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Without more information, all you'll get (at best) is a WAG.
200GB of what? DV? DVCPro50? DVCProHD? 200GB could be just over two hours or over 15 hours of video depending on the format. Do you want periodic chapters, or at edit points? How obsessed are you about video quality for this? What hardware and software will be used to transcode?
No matter how you slice it, this will take alot of work and many hours of encoding and burning.
200GB of what? DV? DVCPro50? DVCProHD? 200GB could be just over two hours or over 15 hours of video depending on the format. Do you want periodic chapters, or at edit points? How obsessed are you about video quality for this? What hardware and software will be used to transcode?
No matter how you slice it, this will take alot of work and many hours of encoding and burning.
200 gb of DVCPro HD. Quality doesn't have to be the best and not fussy about chapter breaks, just something to help manage it. I don't know what kind of hardware he has, but he'll be using FCP 6 most likely (he has some version of 5 and is just now installing 6).
Is this an easier/quicker job for someone with a PC?
Is this an easier/quicker job for someone with a PC?
If you have a 16x DVD burner, then one DVD5 will record without verification at 16x RT.
If you have a 6x DL burner then one DVD9 or 8 GBs data will record at 8x real time.
If you have a 6x DL burner then one DVD9 or 8 GBs data will record at 8x real time.
I have some workflow ideas for the PC that would reduce the amount of manual work that needs to be done, but I'm not sure that it would be worth the cost of acquiring the necessary software pieces.
I think you should let your friend/editor take a shot at it, but be aware that he/she and the computer will be tied up for days doing this.
Regarding the DVD burning speeds that David mentioned, those are the maximum speeds with good, compatible media and under optimum conditions. They are generally only reached on the outer tracks of a disk, and in the interest of data integrity and disk reliability, I would not burn at those speeds. I generally burn 8x media at 4x or 6x, and I seldom buy anything rated for speeds higher than 8x.
I think you should let your friend/editor take a shot at it, but be aware that he/she and the computer will be tied up for days doing this.
Regarding the DVD burning speeds that David mentioned, those are the maximum speeds with good, compatible media and under optimum conditions. They are generally only reached on the outer tracks of a disk, and in the interest of data integrity and disk reliability, I would not burn at those speeds. I generally burn 8x media at 4x or 6x, and I seldom buy anything rated for speeds higher than 8x.
That is a bunch of unnecessary work.
If you have a MAC you can use P2 log to view
and log the footage.
if you have a PC you can use the P2 viewer.
This way you can know which P2 card
has what clips.
Another producer I know was going to
do what you want to do and after I quoted
him $1750 to do that he bought a cheap PC laptop
and I cloned the P2 cards to a FAT 32 drive.
If you have a MAC you can use P2 log to view
and log the footage.
if you have a PC you can use the P2 viewer.
This way you can know which P2 card
has what clips.
Another producer I know was going to
do what you want to do and after I quoted
him $1750 to do that he bought a cheap PC laptop
and I cloned the P2 cards to a FAT 32 drive.
I appreciate everyone's input. Hvxguy, I gather the producer was using P2 viewer with the PC laptop to view his footage?
I have two old Macs (a tiPb and a 6 year old Powermac G4, 450, 1.25 gb, both running 10.3.9) that I know will not be powerful enough to edit on. Also have an HP Pavillion amd athlon xp 2800, using xp pro 2002, 2.08 ghz, 512 ram. Will the p2 viewer work with that? For the p2 log (for the Mac), I'd have to upgrade to 10.4 and then not sure it would work for me for viewing without having FCPHD?
In the fall I'll put together a minimal editing system with a new or used computer so I don't want to invest much at this point just to see the footage.
I have two old Macs (a tiPb and a 6 year old Powermac G4, 450, 1.25 gb, both running 10.3.9) that I know will not be powerful enough to edit on. Also have an HP Pavillion amd athlon xp 2800, using xp pro 2002, 2.08 ghz, 512 ram. Will the p2 viewer work with that? For the p2 log (for the Mac), I'd have to upgrade to 10.4 and then not sure it would work for me for viewing without having FCPHD?
In the fall I'll put together a minimal editing system with a new or used computer so I don't want to invest much at this point just to see the footage.
ozduc
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Using the PC with P2 viewer is the cheapest way out. Another alternative would be to have the editor play the footage in realtime out to a consumer DVD recorder. But they would need to have the necessary hardware like a kona or decklink card to make the connections to the DVD recorder. This would be quicker than encoding and burning a DVD on the mac but still time consuming.
Encoding all the clips and laying them down in a timeline and then
burning a DVD is counter-productive.
Dump all the P2 cards to a cheap external drive for the clients.
I just made three copies of the same P2 cards and gave one to the client,
the producer and the director.
I taught them how to mount all the cards and what to look for when logging.
With P2 trying to log the footage any other way by outside parties would
be a nightmare.
burning a DVD is counter-productive.
Dump all the P2 cards to a cheap external drive for the clients.
I just made three copies of the same P2 cards and gave one to the client,
the producer and the director.
I taught them how to mount all the cards and what to look for when logging.
With P2 trying to log the footage any other way by outside parties would
be a nightmare.
So I'm trying to use P2 Viewer with the PC and I can see all the clips to the left but nothing shows up in the screen to the right. When I select a clip and hit the play button, the red line moves a little and then stops. The play button stays grayed out but no picture in the viewing area. Is this a case of the PC not being powerful enough or is it something I'm doing wrong? I can see if I get this working that it is a much better way than the original idea of dvds...
Yes, went back and put the HVX disc in, and loaded the one for the hvx 200 and restarted the computer - same problem.
After a lot of investigation online, and revisiting the manual and other Panasonic info, I think our PC is not powerful enough. It was built in 2/2004 and has an AMD Athlon xp2800 (2.08 Ghz) and 512 mb ram. Running XP Pro, directx 9.0c One Panasonic sheet recommended 1 gb of ram or greater and 3.2 ghz. I am thinking now that is why I can see the clips in thumbnails in P2 Viewer but nothing will show or play in the screen to the right.
So out of three computers, I think all are too old to handle viewing hd footage.
After a lot of investigation online, and revisiting the manual and other Panasonic info, I think our PC is not powerful enough. It was built in 2/2004 and has an AMD Athlon xp2800 (2.08 Ghz) and 512 mb ram. Running XP Pro, directx 9.0c One Panasonic sheet recommended 1 gb of ram or greater and 3.2 ghz. I am thinking now that is why I can see the clips in thumbnails in P2 Viewer but nothing will show or play in the screen to the right.
So out of three computers, I think all are too old to handle viewing hd footage.
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