Canon HV20 review up at camcorderinfo.com

AuditoryVisuals

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http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Canon-HV20-Camcorder-Review/Performance.htm

How do you like that? The low light seems to be much better than the HV10. But they don't have full resolution images yet. And like all camcorderinfo.com reviews, no video. And also they said that 24p doesn't look like film. They even wents so far as to say "We must preface, for some readers, that 24P does not look like film. Not ever. Not Ever, does video look like film, at least not without very expensive camera and post production equipment."
 
i'd have to agree that 24p doesn't look like film. but the great thing is.. 7/10 people don't realize the difference
 
I refuse to visit that site for any camcordor info. Not only are their reviews completely biased but they more often than not contain false information. I personally would take everything written on that site with a grain of salt.
 
i read the review scharky theye had a lot gooooooooooood thing to say about the hv20 .

peace n luv

Mark Dog
 
I have no problem with them saying good things about any camcorder, I'm not saying that they don't like the HV20 either, I'm just saying that just about every review will have some sort of error, the reviewer will be biased in some way either for or against that particular brand of camcorder. I don't care if they say the nicest things in the world about a particular camcorder, their goal is to be first to review things rather than actually get things straight, and in my book that is just plain wrong.
 
AuditoryVisuals said:
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Canon-HV20-Camcorder-Review/Performance.htm

How do you like that? The low light seems to be much better than the HV10. But they don't have full resolution images yet. And like all camcorderinfo.com reviews, no video. And also they said that 24p doesn't look like film. They even wents so far as to say "We must preface, for some readers, that 24P does not look like film. Not ever. Not Ever, does video look like film, at least not without very expensive camera and post production equipment."
Thanks AuditoryVisuals. Of course 24p does not look like film. The cool thing is that few people can tell the diference, and even better, sometimes 24p looks better than film.

Cool review with nices pictures. Thanks again for the link.
 
"Not Ever, does video look like film, at least not without very expensive camera and post production equipment."

I take exception to this categorical statement (and on more than grammatical grounds). It reeks of snobbery.

I guess it depends on one's definition of "very" expensive. But there are several prosumer (and now with the HV20, consumer?) cameras capable of producing a "filmlike" image using video.

Let's say a digitally recorded moving image has full HD resolution, 24fps recording, thoughtful lighting, shallow DOF, and "cinematic" color correction in post. If the image doesn't look like film, what does it look like? Swiss cheese?

Sure, video won't EXACTLY REPLICATE film; by the same token, film won't replicate video. But the qualitative differences between the two mediums are becoming fewer as digital technology advances.
 
I fully agree with you Sean.

E.

EDIT -- With prisma too. It seems there is a large consensus over here.
 
What he should have said was "in my opinion...." It felt a little jarring for me to read that quote also. I think it's possible to make 24p video look extremely close to film. That 24p look I see on MTV and others does sometimes look like video but the feel I get on the XHA1, I believe, closely resembles film. I know what he's getting at but it's just not as definitive as he's making it out to be.
 
Its not film. 24P is not film.

( I discussed this in all its finesses during the HVX introduction against all the HVX power-people together with some cinematic guys and wouldn't do it over, but I stand my point)
 
I've read a couple of threads from HV20 users who seem to have been having some trouble with focusing properly (manually and automatically). :-(
 
xray said:
It's not film. Three words, but it's discussed in 16 pages.

Xray with the HV20 you record the footage digitaly to a miniDV at 24p in HD, you dont use film media to capture images. So I think everybody on this forum know is not film. Why you keep saying that?
 
Everybody knows it's not film. X-Rays can ruin film, not tape. Just look at it and see if the picture disapears, if it doesn't it's not film. ;)
 
24p is not like film. Look. It doesn't. And to repeat this mantra is very fruitful, see some people above me who are repeating the question 'why I was saying that'.
 
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