As far as I can tell, emulation and virtualization, though sorta similar in concept, are not exactly the same thing.
Emulator
Virtualization
Paravirtualization - (Parralles)
Emulator
Virtualization
Paravirtualization - (Parralles)
Anyone Interested in a DV Rack like app for MAC?
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BenB said:
Whatever you call it, the concept is nearly identical.
"Virtualization" is a methodology for dividing the resources of a computer into multiple execution environments, by applying partial or complete machine simulation or emulation.
That's why it was referred to as "Virtual PC."
Barry_Green
Moderator
"emulation," as I understand it, has traditionally been employed when one processor has to emulate another's instruction set (Rosetta, for example). Slow.
"virtualization" appears to be a new term they're employing because both OS's are actually running on the same processor, so there is no actual emulation. There is probably some translation of function calls going on, but the base code can run natively.
"virtualization" appears to be a new term they're employing because both OS's are actually running on the same processor, so there is no actual emulation. There is probably some translation of function calls going on, but the base code can run natively.
ProLost
Well-known member
Have you been to Parallells site? The term virtualization is on the front page about a dozen times. Parallells absolutely is not doing emulation. Emulation is when you use software to simulate hardware. Virtualization is completely different, and yeilds much better performance.BenB said:
Barry's description of the difference is spot on.
-Stu
Glad we cleared this up.
horseface
Active member
Put my name down for an HD version.
I just need to be able to monitor focus (Not capture) on my trusty old 800mhz G4 TiBook. This looks a thousand times better than lugging an expensive screen around with me. It's between this and whatever RedRock is cooking up... Whoever has a workable solution first.
I just need to be able to monitor focus (Not capture) on my trusty old 800mhz G4 TiBook. This looks a thousand times better than lugging an expensive screen around with me. It's between this and whatever RedRock is cooking up... Whoever has a workable solution first.
Yardsale
Well-known member
So I tried it out last night on a shoot, turns out the demo signs pop up quickly 
I'd love to buy the product, i think it's excellent. However, when it gets upgraded for new features, will DVXusers get left out in the cold and have to pay for a new release?
I'm on a very indie budget right now, working with a DVX, curious..
I'd love to buy the product, i think it's excellent. However, when it gets upgraded for new features, will DVXusers get left out in the cold and have to pay for a new release?
I'm on a very indie budget right now, working with a DVX, curious..
I'm trying to convinced Jarred to post a review I am writing for ScopeBox, but I can get a specific response yes or no.
But if you want to ask questions, I'll respond.
But if you want to ask questions, I'll respond.
Just wanted to let everyone know that we have launched DV Monitor Pro. Main new features are D2D recording, shot logging with Labels, ratings and notes, Instant FCP export so you can start editing as soon as you are finished shooting, Custom Image Overlay for SFX shots, and Shot and Continuity tools.
Feel free to ask questions about this new version.
Feel free to ask questions about this new version.
superiormeat
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Pretty bizarre how Scopebox is largely ignored here... Like it doesn't exist. Maybe some form of bad blood with the developer and DVXuser? I don't get it. I mean many DVXusers have been waiting for and wanting a DVrack app for the mac.
Anyway I downloaded the demo and it seemed to work great... One major problem - It's too expensive at $699 (and even at the $599 intro price they had) IMHO
$349 and I'm
Anyway I downloaded the demo and it seemed to work great... One major problem - It's too expensive at $699 (and even at the $599 intro price they had) IMHO
$349 and I'm
SurJones
Veteran
Well Scope box is okay, but lacks alot that DVrack has to offer . My biggest issue is that it
restricts you to a "window workflow" No free floating windows. I could actually go on for hours about other things. Just not my cup of tea.
There is no bad blood, no one just seems to really like it. I guess?
restricts you to a "window workflow" No free floating windows. I could actually go on for hours about other things. Just not my cup of tea.
There is no bad blood, no one just seems to really like it. I guess?
slimchrisp
Well-known member
the demo for scopebox SUCKS!!!
if they're going to give you a demo for expensive software ($699 hd/ $399 sd) they shouldn't punish you for trying it. but that's exactly how i felt. first every single window has DEMO or something like that written in big red letters. then, not only does the demo time out after 10 minutes or so, but you only get to use it for i think 10 or 15 days. come on, just give me a fully working demo that times out after 10 minutes.
the dv monitor/dv monitor pro demos however, are full featured. they give you around 10 minutes before a little "demo" text starts bouncing around.
based on my cussing to features ratio, i'm easily going with dv monitor pro over scopebox.
i'm on the dvx, so i don't need the hd features just yet, so if that's what you really need then maybe dv monitor isn't for you. but they did just release the pro version, so hopefully an hd version isn't too far down the road.
if they're going to give you a demo for expensive software ($699 hd/ $399 sd) they shouldn't punish you for trying it. but that's exactly how i felt. first every single window has DEMO or something like that written in big red letters. then, not only does the demo time out after 10 minutes or so, but you only get to use it for i think 10 or 15 days. come on, just give me a fully working demo that times out after 10 minutes.
the dv monitor/dv monitor pro demos however, are full featured. they give you around 10 minutes before a little "demo" text starts bouncing around.
based on my cussing to features ratio, i'm easily going with dv monitor pro over scopebox.
i'm on the dvx, so i don't need the hd features just yet, so if that's what you really need then maybe dv monitor isn't for you. but they did just release the pro version, so hopefully an hd version isn't too far down the road.
superiormeat said:
superiormeat
New member
you're right slimcrisp - that did suck... the "DEMO" across all the windows that is.
BUT - the monitor function worked great and would obviously function as a great critical focus field monitor - the record to disk in 720 or 1080 (although 60i at the monent) - and of course all the SCOPES all seemed to work great (didn't test accuracy).
I bring it up because it the ONLY solution for the HVX in HD at the moment.
BUT - the monitor function worked great and would obviously function as a great critical focus field monitor - the record to disk in 720 or 1080 (although 60i at the monent) - and of course all the SCOPES all seemed to work great (didn't test accuracy).
I bring it up because it the ONLY solution for the HVX in HD at the moment.
superiormeat
New member
oops
forgot to add the mac part...
as far as DV rack 2.0 - I don't ever see myself installing Windows on my macbook pro to run one app.
It's just an option that some people may be interested in. I don't know the company and probably won't even buy it at that price.
forgot to add the mac part...
as far as DV rack 2.0 - I don't ever see myself installing Windows on my macbook pro to run one app.
It's just an option that some people may be interested in. I don't know the company and probably won't even buy it at that price.
THoff,
The whole point of this thread is to address Mac users who want to run OS X and also have a software package that gives them the features they need to shoot better quality video.
I started this thread last April looking to see if there was a market for this kind of software for the Mac.
Anyways, I am proud of what we have delivered so far for the Mac market. I know we still have a ways to go, scopes and HD support etc... It is just a matter of time until we release the higher end features. We wanted to have a bullet proof and easy to use foundation on which to build upon. I believe that we have delivered on that.
We have a lot of really cool features up our sleeves that will allow us to leap ahead of all our competitors. We now have the ability to shoot and then instantly edit in FCP with all the notes and ratings available, this is a huge time saving feature. I am not aware of any app like ours that offers this feature.
Ben
The whole point of this thread is to address Mac users who want to run OS X and also have a software package that gives them the features they need to shoot better quality video.
I started this thread last April looking to see if there was a market for this kind of software for the Mac.
Anyways, I am proud of what we have delivered so far for the Mac market. I know we still have a ways to go, scopes and HD support etc... It is just a matter of time until we release the higher end features. We wanted to have a bullet proof and easy to use foundation on which to build upon. I believe that we have delivered on that.
We have a lot of really cool features up our sleeves that will allow us to leap ahead of all our competitors. We now have the ability to shoot and then instantly edit in FCP with all the notes and ratings available, this is a huge time saving feature. I am not aware of any app like ours that offers this feature.
Ben
slimchrisp
Well-known member
superiormeat said:
you're most definitely right meat. if you're going hd, then dv monitor isn't going to work for you. here's to hoping for an hd version soon!!! and like bena said above, they have kicked this app out pretty fast, and it's already got some really great features. just a matter of time until hd and some other things come along.