Anyone Interested in a DV Rack like app for MAC?

Quick update:

I have tried deleting the preference file and installing the app under a different user, both with no success. As for QuickTime, I am running 7.1.2 and have avoided the latest 7.1.3 upgrade so as to be able to keep QT Pro without shelling out another $29. That said, I'll do the upgrade if that would really make a difference.

I think what most people are looking for is the ability to use a PB in the field that will serve to monitor and preferably capture footage AND use the PCI slot to ingest P2 cards. At the moment the PB G4 15" and 17" are the only MACS that would fit the bill. Used PB's can be found for between $400-700 which strikes me as a much better option than a 60 Gig P2 Store at three times the price.

I guess we need to ask the question, what is the minimum spec for capturing since Bena has indicated that he didn't think the 867 MHz would be up for the task?

And for the record, I am solidly behind the idea of this product and will sell several by word of mouth as soon as I have it working. I'm also comfortable with the idea that my Sundance 2004 refurb laptop might not be up for the task but it sure would be nice to be able to use it as a monitor in the field!

Keep up the good work Bena!
 
Does DV Monitor Crash if you launch it with no camera connected?

Do you have a firewire HD that you can load a fresh Mac OS system on?

Unless your PB is having hardware issues, there is something wrong with your OS.

Once I get back from LA, which is where I am now, we can try to look into profiling your crash and seeing what is causing it.

My 1ghz PB works with DV Monitor, but it struggles, an 866 would be usable, but I would not get my hopes up.

You are asking a lot of a 9 yr old processor ( thats about he age of the G4's).

Sorry that it did not work as it should, but I fear there might be other reasons, most likely your OS is damaged.

If you can, try booting to an external Firewire HD and see if the app runs.
 
FYI Red Lightning Software will be showing a version of our product that has Direct to Disk recording at DV EXPO, in the ProMax booth, as well as at the LAFCPUG users meeting on the 15th.

Hope to see you there
 
msamstag said:
As for QuickTime, I am running 7.1.2 and have avoided the latest 7.1.3 upgrade so as to be able to keep QT Pro without shelling out another $29.
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Upgrading from 7.1.2 to 7.1.3 does not require you re-purchase anything to keep QTPro.
 
Hmm, everything I saw is far away from what DVRack offers.

I would use Boot Camp or Parallels to run DVRack on Intel Macs. There is nothing equal for Mac OS X ...
 
Parallels has the same draw back that Virtual PC had, since it's an emulator, it runs things slower. From my understanding, Parallels isn't near as slow as VPC was, but it's not as fast as running native in the OS. I would venture to guess that it may be way too slow for video editing.
 
Ben,
Any updates on the HD version of DV Monitor? Recording version? You said you were going to show a working version at DV EXPO/LAFCPUG users meeting. How did that go? If you have a working version, how far away are we from a release?

I'm not pressuring, I know you don't want to be premature on your release promises. Just wanted an update. :)
 
Hi Czar,

We did show the Recording version of DV Monitor at the LAFCPUG and I think it went over well.

We are getting very close to going into Beta with the new version. I expect the Beta to go rather quickly, as we do a pretty good job of finding bugs in Alpha.

So Everyone knows, the new version has been totally overhauled under the hood. This took a bit of time, time away from HD and Scopes, but we now have a foundation we can move forward with that will reduce CPU load and allow all the goodies to be added on fairly quickly. And we have a LOT of goodies to add in, things never even dreamt by Serious Magic.

Look for announcements in the coming weeks.
 
BenB said:
Parallels has the same draw back that Virtual PC had, since it's an emulator, it runs things slower. From my understanding, Parallels isn't near as slow as VPC was, but it's not as fast as running native in the OS. I would venture to guess that it may be way too slow for video editing.
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FYI, Parallels is not an emulator! Virtual PC on the PPC Macs (there is a version for windows) had to do emulation because of the different instruction sets between PPC chips and Pentiums. Parallels is only able to exists for Intel Macs by virtue of the fact that OS X and Windows now share the same CPU. Since there is no overhead of trying to convert from one CPU machine language to another, virtualization is much faster than emulation. There are still driver issues for the guest operating system to work correctly and that would probably be the major issue with trying to run DV Rack in parallels. But I would expect that with the new processors in the intel Macs that speed would not be the issue.

-Steven
 
Hopefully in the near future once everyone sees where WE are headed, they will forget all about DV Rack and windows.

Maybe it would be better to take this to the DV Rack thread? :)

sjmvideo said:
FYI, Parallels is not an emulator! Virtual PC on the PPC Macs (there is a version for windows) had to do emulation because of the different instruction sets between PPC chips and Pentiums. Parallels is only able to exists for Intel Macs by virtue of the fact that OS X and Windows now share the same CPU. Since there is no overhead of trying to convert from one CPU machine language to another, virtualization is much faster than emulation. There are still driver issues for the guest operating system to work correctly and that would probably be the major issue with trying to run DV Rack in parallels. But I would expect that with the new processors in the intel Macs that speed would not be the issue.

-Steven
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Ben any insights to where you're headed?

Don't want to put any pressure, but many of us (mac users) are seriously considering buying a pc for offloading purposes (considering all the corruption issues, glitches and so forth). DVRACK and Windows suddenly don't look like a remote possiblity.
 
What limitations does the beta version have? I'm trying to convince my crew that we need to get this but there are still some bugs and fixes still to be worked out if I read correctly...
 
Yard Sale,

Our Beta's are mostly to find weird interactions and test compatibility with varying computers.

It is to find things that we the developer missed and to get opinions on how things should work and general feedback.

Feel free to go to our website and sign up to be in the Beta. http://www.redlightningsoftware.com/News.html
 
Segarza,

I would strongly suggest getting a new intel mac, then you have choices.

We have things up our sleeve, I just can't show our cards just yet. I am sure Adobe would love to know what we are up to.
 
Barry_Green said:
I don't know if redrock's supports HD, does it?

I'd definitely be interested. Far and away the things I use most on DV rack are:
1) pixel-accurate monitor for focus, and zooming into the monitor, and full-screen monitor capability
2) digital disk recorder, especially with the split-screen function; gotta have that split-screen capability to match a recorded shot against the live feed.
3) live waveform

If it did disk recording in all modes (DV50, 720p, 1080, and DV) that would be superb. And it should be a universal binary app so it runs on the new macbook and the old powerbooks.

It should record its files to QT MOVs that are directly editable by FCP. Should also use a huge RAM cache to buffer the frames during recording, to prevent there ever being a dropped frame on recording -- we need to be able to inherently trust it no matter what. And it should automatically strip out duplicate frames from 720p variable-frame-rate stuff, so if you're shooting 720/24p mode, it should record only the 24fps to the QT file.

It would also be stellar if it could record MXF files too -- so you'd have the choice of recording MXF or QT. I'd like to be able to use it to capture in the field, but capture MXF files that I could then edit on an Edius or Avid system.

And if you had it ready right now, yes I'd paypal $495 today for it.
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Perfect! Do that but also have the ability to do mt2 transports from HDV also. And (maybe mentioned) a flip function for using 35mm adapters.

scratch that: from the website :
Users of 35mm lens adaptor will appreciate the image flipping functions to correct the image to the proper orientation.
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Hope you guys offer a trial version. Looking to get this baby cranking. Then I can forget the LCD monitor search.
 
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Parralles IS an emulator, you can't run two OS's at one time, one has to emulate, that's just a physical fact. I'm a retired IT Engineer, I THINK I may have a clue...
 
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