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yah I know you're just looking out for the non-tech folks. but torrents work fine without port forwarding or any crazy config steps. most torrent clients add their port to the exception list in Windows firewall. :Drogar-Evil(DBG):

you'll get faster speeds if you do know how to port forward, but its still pretty darn feast. :)

the steps to do all this are:

1. downloading torrent app
2. encoding your movie as a torrent (which is a tiny text file!)
3. email the tiny text file to jared
4. jared downloads all movies

pretty simple, right? we could even put a simple tutorial vid on there that walks the complete noob through it. again, because its based on a single standard everyone will be doing the same thing.

anyway, that's my 2 cents. they'll take it or leave it for the next festival. :dankk2:
 
I think we are lookin at a way jarred wont have to do any work with downloading the files to himself, as well as making a deadline stick. I kinda disagree with the tutorials and what not for encoding, its part of the process to learn on your own how to encode and upload, but anyone offering help ofcourse can be thanked greatly :)
 
desperatecomfort said:
Yeah, but it's so slow to download things, it's a joke.

ROFL! that's hilarious. I know yer just kidding right? I get 380KBs d/l a second with utorrent (3Mbit Verizon DSL) and some sources cite that bittorrent accounts for 35% of all internet traffic. :huh:

You're right though, easily accessible step-by-step tutorials to obtain files which match the fest specs are needed for the most common NLEs. :)
 
I think the tutorials are good, and maybe in the little break period in between fests we can work on some more detailed ones, as to avoid any more issues.
 
FlintMI said:
ROFL! that's hilarious. I know yer just kidding right? I get 380KBs d/l a second with utorrent (3Mbit Verizon DSL) and some sources cite that bittorrent accounts for 35% of all internet traffic. :huh:

Not everyone has super-duper fast connections though :)

512k here

Jason
 
FlintMI said:
ROFL! that's hilarious. I know yer just kidding right? I get 380KBs d/l a second with utorrent (3Mbit Verizon DSL) and some sources cite that bittorrent accounts for 35% of all internet traffic. :huh:

You're right though, easily accessible step-by-step tutorials to obtain files which match the fest specs are needed for the most common NLEs. :)

Dude, I've downloaded many things through Bittorrent, as have many of my friends. A movie or TV show can take like DAYS. And NOTHING on the internet should take days. Or even hours for that matter.
 
I think securing a means to get your movie to any given festival , is also a part of the process. Besides Jarred already said you could mail the file. Bandwidth included.
 
Well, our film (Thou Shalt Not) is finally up on the list!

Thanks to everyone who offered and helped out!
 
desperatecomfort said:
Dude, I've downloaded many things through Bittorrent, as have many of my friends. A movie or TV show can take like DAYS. And NOTHING on the internet should take days. Or even hours for that matter.

ive waited WEEKS before to download a 100mb file from bit torrent. RARE out of print albums and what not i want to check out before spending 50 bucks on ebay. When something is out of print, ill download before purchasing it because buying it 2nd hand doesnt got to support the creator of the content....fair in my mind.
 
Ramjet1979 said:
Not everyone has super-duper fast connections though :)

512k here

Jason

is that your download rate? if so your upload speed will probably be 1/3 to 1/2 that per typical ISP down/up ratios. which is why torrent is so good. it just takes small 256k chunks of your big 400MB file and puts them together at the end when its downloaded all the chunks.

FTP treats your file as one big fat one.

and you can have a complete meltdown and restart your PC and it will pick up from the last point. they all do that. it's the torrent standard allows this.

it's totally the way to go, but if someone doesn't understand how torrent works, it's a tough sell because people fail to realize its your own PC and everyone else's working together in a swarm. and once the seeding starts, it really rockets.

no FTP, no servers, no nothing. beauty. if the movie studios are so afraid of it, and are no jumping on the bandwagon, why don't we do the same? makes sense.
 
khmuse said:
Well, our film (Thou Shalt Not) is finally up on the list!

Thanks to everyone who offered and helped out!
Just saw it!!! Now I can relax and enjoy the show....whew :beer: :beer: :beer:
 
That's my connection speed. I typically get about 4 megs per min. little less on average... It ends up being about 20-50 kb/sec, versus your 250's.
My upload speed is 128.

Jason. I am just saying that not everyone has or even has access to the fastest connections, so download/upload rates are subjective.

Jason
 
FlintMI said:
is that your download rate? if so your upload speed will probably be 1/3 to 1/2 that per typical ISP down/up ratios. which is why torrent is so good. it just takes small 256k chunks of your big 400MB file and puts them together at the end when its downloaded all the chunks.

FTP treats your file as one big fat one.

and you can have a complete meltdown and restart your PC and it will pick up from the last point. they all do that. it's the torrent standard allows this.

it's totally the way to go, but if someone doesn't understand how torrent works, it's a tough sell because people fail to realize its your own PC and everyone else's working together in a swarm. and once the seeding starts, it really rockets.

no FTP, no servers, no nothing. beauty. if the movie studios are so afraid of it, and are no jumping on the bandwagon, why don't we do the same? makes sense.

Bittorrent (the company) is working on distributing movies using their technology. I met the founder/president guy at VSDA, he was hard at work with footwork and networking trying to get content for their site legitamitly, some pr0n guys yelled at him on stage saying hes bankrupting them with his technology. LOL. but ya, i think itunes killed his goal, but maybe im sure his technology, which is great! will find a legit home for some distribution of some media.
 
I give up trying to explain this stuff! :crybaby: you'll get massive download/upload speeds for appropriately seeded resources (such as would be in the next festival!!) and only Jared would be downloading, RIGHT?!? :)

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Cynic821 said:
Getting your movie in the correct format for whatever contest you enter it into is also part of the contest no? Its all part of the movie making process.

I don't consider this part of the movie making process, especially for an online festival. I DO understand what the DVXUser HorrorFest's parameters are. I would not have entered if I didn't want to. But for me, the film I made is sitting uncompressed in my computer. It's even what I can put out on a DVD. But the difference between that and the 400x300, compressed, <50MB file is enormous for me. And a lot of people, especially those who are new to the whole compression thing, are going to freak out when they see their blood, sweat and tears playing in the little Quicktime box for the first time.

Should people learn how to compress? Maybe. If your goal is to make films and distribute them online, then I would say definitely invest the time to learn. But even then, I wouldn't say it's part of the filmmaking process. It's basically this:

What the least amount of sh*tty I can accept my film to be watched at and how hard am I willing to work, or pay, to do it.

Just my feelings, that's all.


John G.
 
I have to disagree, thats like saying outputting to DVD or VHS or whatever a brick and morter festival takes the films is not part of the process, its a whole package deal.
 
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