RED CAMERA Prelim. Specs

When a prime lens is (nearly) as big as the camera body and may even weigh as much, a radical rethink of ergonomics is in order. I don't see evidence of that.
 
Yes, I would agree. If you measure the size of the lens attachement hole on those prototype pictures and compare to the size of a 35mm lens attachment you can get a good idea of just how disproportionate the body of RED is compared to the lenses.

Okay, here's my rubbish Photoshop job!
http://www.simonwyndham.co.uk/redlens.jpg

How do I post pictures properly in these forums??
 
Forget about the 300 mm telephoto for the comparison (that's a special purpose lens). Prime lenses of average focal length are about 2/3rds the size of the camera body. That'll make it very front heavy, even with a recorder of some kind mounted behind the body.
 
Simon Wyndham said:
Yes, I would agree. If you measure the size of the lens attachement hole on those prototype pictures and compare to the size of a 35mm lens attachment you can get a good idea of just how disproportionate the body of RED is compared to the lenses.

Okay, here's my rubbish Photoshop job!
http://www.simonwyndham.co.uk/redlens.jpg

How do I post pictures properly in these forums??
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I think some of you are missing the points that have been made. The Red team is basically showing the heart of the unit or the core. The whole "body" will be a bit flexible using the cage systems. I mean, this modularity and cage concept is one of the most exciting things about the whole NAB announcement.

Maybe it just takes some imagination to see how everything can look once you've got it on a tripod with the appropriate cage, storage devices, lense, matte box, etc. I can picture it.
 
Everdene, yes I can see where you are coming from. After all the pictures that exist are only of prototypes, and I doubt that the final version will look anything like that.

I do have confidence that the RED team will listen to all inputs to make sure that they make a camera body that is the perfect usable form factor.
 
Simon Wyndham said:
Everdene, yes I can see where you are coming from. After all the pictures that exist are only of prototypes, and I doubt that the final version will look anything like that.

I do have confidence that the RED team will listen to all inputs to make sure that they make a camera body that is the perfect usable form factor.
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I have a feeling that the design shown at NAB is probably pretty close to what they will release in the end. Of course, that's just a gut feeling -- mere speculation on my part -- but speculation is so much fun! :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

If you look at Oakley designs, I think you'll agree that it's pretty similar in the aesthetic dept.

I personally like the design, simply because it's so... weird. I'd get a real kick seeing this attached to a third-party 35mm lens. I imagine it'd look something like Frankenstein's monster. ...a very futuristic Frankenstein's monster.
 
Everdene said:
I think some of you are missing the points that have been made. The Red team is basically showing the heart of the unit or the core. The whole "body" will be a bit flexible using the cage systems. I mean, this modularity and cage concept is one of the most exciting things about the whole NAB announcement.
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Absolutely. It's just weird how people keep overlooking the storage device. Remember how a lot of Sony cameras had BACKS that you bolted on, which held the recording device? The cage idea, with its numerous holes for mounting things, lets you attach devices, braces, and counterweights if you want.

Oh yeah, not to mention BATTERIES. Man, what are people thinking?
 
yeah, once you put all the accessories on it, it'll be like the death star in the final phases of it's construction...in fact, if you can find Endor, it's in orbit there. you just need the code for the forceshield or a bunch of ewoks...

seriously though, it's bizarre, but in a good way.


you could bolt several together and spin them around or something, kinda like they did in 'the wall' when pink was in the pool... or roll them down a hill...

carefully...

really frickin' carefully...
 
speakin of ewoks...they speak tagalog, a filipino language. haha I guess they didn't want to try making a new language for them fur balls.

Anyways, I think the cage idea would be great. I've never liked the basic camera handles and grips. maybe with the cage and some attachments you wont need things like the figrig.

....do not fear evolution my friends.

pretty soon our cameras will be transforming and fighting decepticons.

I'm still going to stick with my dvx for sometime though, that camera is still the most amazing thing since spam.
 
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ok here's an ewok reacting: we got excited here in the philippines before red announced their target price of $17,000... the cost is still for big film companies in our country and for us indie filmmakers, the hvx202 and everything under that will still be the tool... luckily, winning the prime awards in international festivals recently for some filipino independent films made with the dvx100, implies its still the story that matters more than the technicals, specially for a third world country like ours
 
I am also a fellow ewok. Yea im not surprised if people win with the dvx. The DVX is amazing. Good luck in your projects in the Philippines.
 
Simon Wyndham said:
Yes, I would agree. If you measure the size of the lens attachement hole on those prototype pictures and compare to the size of a 35mm lens attachment you can get a good idea of just how disproportionate the body of RED is compared to the lenses.

Okay, here's my rubbish Photoshop job!
http://www.simonwyndham.co.uk/redlens.jpg

How do I post pictures properly in these forums??
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My gosh! I'm sorry really don't care about what's under the hood but I think that this camera looks a bit too silly to take serious.


:huh:
 
Shiloh Arts picture it with a battery pack, recording drive, matte box, follow focus view screen/viewfinder attached to it. After all what we’re seeing here is just the core of the system, sort of like seeing an ARRI SR3 without the magazine or lens.
 
your whackjob little mockup is just a little off lol..

Mikko snuck some photos of the camera with a normal lens
Red1.jpg


Red3.htm
 
I read an article I found last year, when searching for simulating film looks I think, and came across the following:

"...word has it that Geore Lucas has contracted with Sony to build a new generation of ultra high definition cameras that record 10 megapixels of information. When these cameras become standard, motion picture film cameras will be d??? - (dead?)"

This quote has come from a print out which didn't get all the text, and no address was printed but I think it came from a DViArticle or something...

I also heard someone in Japan have already done what RED are doing, but they were having trouble with getting motion sickness when viewing the images?!...

Not sure what to make of it... if anything at all...
 
Yeah me too. I still really don't understand. where they're going w/ that. It looks like a toy or something, ya' know, not very professional looking.
 
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