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The past couple years have seen an influx of new lenses. I used to only worry about learning a new camera every few months, now i am finding myself figuring out quirks of new lenses, some of which have no history and no knowledge base to help.

Starting this thread to discuss new releases and any user feedback. Feel free to mention any lens new or old in this thread. There are plenty of obscure vintage lenses that find a “new” place in the field. Arri DNA and Lomo rehoused are examples of repurposing or updating older lenses or designs. However, lenses like Zeiss Super Speeds, Ultra Primes, and Cookes have been around and discussed in great detail. So, talking about them is kind of redundant. They are however great lenses to use as references and bench marks when talking about the newer ones and obscure ones.

Also feel free to discuss any new tech that would/could even make traditional lenses obsolete. This is an ongoing discussion about the tools that are in the first chain of image capture. So, even though computer generated characters could theoretically replace traditional image capture, it is such a different way of going about it, that would be outside the scope of this thread and be a bit of a waste of time. However, talking about holograms or 3D, is fine. It is at least remotely related. The primary intention of this thread is to discuss lenses as we know them todday: optical devices that project an image onto a 2D capture device. But naturally converaaion will drift into other avenues.

We are increasingly required to use lenses that we have never used before, and may never use again. Even getting a prep day is not enough time to figure out all of the variables involved with some lenses. Many of the cheaper new lenses don’t have much accurate information beyond marketing material.
 
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New Lenses:

Atlas Orion anamorphic
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread...post1986797771
Blackwing7
SLR Magic APO and Hyper primes
https://johnbrawley.wordpress.com/20...ic-quick-test/
Masterbuilt
Oh geez: Sirui 1.33x 50mm anamorphic: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/e...nematic-side#/
Vega
dulens
Primo 70
Zeiss Supreme “Radiance”
Xeen CF
P+S Technik anamorphic
Tokina Vista
Canon CN-E
Canon Sumire
Sigma Cinema
Sigma Classic
Foton/DZO
Veydra (and variations of)
Vazen 85mm T2.8 1.8X FF Anamorphic PL/EF
Leica Cinema
Spirit Lab
Laowa macro 24mm
Leits Prime and Zoom large format lenses
https://www.leitz-cine.com/products
Angenieux EZ
White Point Optics
Xeen and Xeen CF
Zeiss otis/milvus/cp.3/CZ etc
Zeiss Supreme/Radiance
Arri Signature
Glas Werk anamorphic
Samyang Meister
Irix Cine lenses (ff35)
https://irixlens.com/cine-lenses/cine-lenses-45mm/
DZO Vespid LF cine prime lenses
Arri Signature now has a full range of zoom lenses



Cinema Zooms:
Takumi 23.9?24.9-95 T2.9 s35 zoom
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread...post1986797524
Fujinon Premista 28-100mm T2.9 FF35 zoom (so good this lens!)
Cooke Varitol
DZO
Leica


Auto focus lenses:
Sony G Master
Canon R

Rehousing Companies:
TLS
White Point Optics
P+S
Zero Optik
Van Diemen
G.L. Optics


AKS in the optical path:
Tilta Filter mount for Red. Currently a Variable ND in the filter tray.

Kippertie Revolva for Red DSMC2, diffusion and ND internal filter mount.

Will update as we go along, and i will try to attach links to each lens in relation to the first post about them, and possibly helpful web references and/or other threads.
 
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If there is an interesting lens you recently used, or are about to use a lens you have questions about, post in this thread.
 
Bulletin board - Revolving events or mention of new releases:

Duclos mentioned that the Zeiss Supreme “Radiance” lenses will end orders in early March?
 
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CN-E series are the only ones that enable Dual Pixel Focus Guide on C200/300/700.

Is there a possibility to program Leica R to EF adapter to fool them thinking there is CN-E on them?
 
I was recently asked to work on a project, and the producer asked me what i thought of the lens. I had never used it before, so i declined any thoughts on the matter, and said “it is alright”. It got the job done, and had some quirkiness. Some of which was user error, and some of which could have been the lens or the camera. But i am not going to definitively decide my opinions about a tool without spending more time with it. That got me thinking, there are enough lenses introduced in the last several years that seem to live only in the “marketing” tier. Not a lof of real user feedback. Some reviewer gets a loaner and goes and shoots some quick tests. Idk. I kind of trust some of the brands, but others drive me a little mad with variances and tolerances that could be user error, or could be low qc... And it seems we are entering an era when that is going to be the new norm.
 
Consumer oriented mentality

Consumer oriented mentality

I was recently asked to work on a project, and the producer asked me what i thought of the lens. I had never used it before, so i declined any thoughts on the matter, and said “it is alright”. It got the job done, and had some quirkiness. Some of which was user error, and some of which could have been the lens or the camera. But i am not going to definitively decide my opinions about a tool without spending more time with it. That got me thinking, there are enough lenses introduced in the last several years that seem to live only in the “marketing” tier. Not a lof of real user feedback. Some reviewer gets a loaner and goes and shoots some quick tests. Idk. I kind of trust some of the brands, but others drive me a little mad with variances and tolerances that could be user error, or could be low qc... And it seems we are entering an era when that is going to be the new norm.
That's what happens when consumer oriented marketing enters professional industry -clusterf@#k. This is the price we pay (among other costs) for the incredible growth our industry has experienced in last 10-12 years. Not too bad IMO- just have got to adjust for it. Read feedback and vote with your wallet I say...I do think at times they underestimate our competence....
 
The Tamuri 23.9-195mm zoom left quite the first impression.

In a word: high end

Or, that is two words.

Sharp (even wide open)
Good color
Neutral
4ft min focus distance is nearly macro at 195mm
Minimal flaring, flaring is not overly saturated
19.8lbs, but engineered well, weight feels appropriate.
Accurate focus marks
Easily adjusted back focus, as the lens is so sharp, when you have it, you know you have it
Good composed bokeh
Snappy focus.
Designed for 4K, at 1:1 pixel magnification on the 8k s35 Helium, the image was still sharp!
Large format image circle adapter (hello Venice and mini LF!)
Lighter weight and smaller than comparable zooms, yet preserves the most useful zoom range for contemporary. S35 shooting.
Focus holds through the zoom

Looks like an incredibly versatile lens that could cut with many different modern lenses available today.

Impressive demo, looking forward to testing it out some day.
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Atlas has become quite the buzz word for budget filmers, as they are quite “affordable”. A while back i put them on an Alexa andchecked thei sharpness and tried to get a sense of what they said visually. Overall, was a little underwhelmed.

That was then.

Beating the lenses up this weekend was good fun. Bringing them out into the real world, they came alive.

When i typically think “anamorphic”, these lenses may not look like what i imagine, but when out shooting, you forget all of that and start reacting, and it is like a dance. Or like when you hear about someone and think they are kind of stick up, but when you meet them, you find out they are really grounded and just great to be around.

The lack of history of these lenses, means that whatever you shoot is your own new thing. Which, for anamorphic, isn’t that an oxymoron?

I didn’t have time to think about it, everything was looking too good.
 
...oh alright, the things i didn’t like where the things that plague most anamorphics - size and weight. Soft wide open. Higher price. Limited focal lengths.

The other thing, is do you want a look that you’ve seen before, and go with actual vintage lenses, or get something that shares those characteristics, without actually being them.
 
What's the retail on that Atlas kit? Do they have an EF (dumb) version?

Not sure. David W. Jones is probably right. About $8K a lens sounds right. Considering Canon Sumire is msrp of ~$7k...
 
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