Zylight F8-200 LED Fresnel = 400w HMI

If you're wanting a 2k equivalent LED Fresnel there's also the Fiilex Q-1000 to consider. It has the advantage of wide ranged bi-color and hue adjustments. Zylight F8-200 has a wider range of beam angle.

The original Zylight F8 marketed itself as compact since it can shrink in size, but from what I recall of looking at it while at B&H it's actually a pretty sizable light, comparable in size to the Fiilex Q-500, just a different shape. The Q-1000 is apparently the same weight as the Q-500, except that it also has an additional 4.8 lb ballast. I wonder what the weight of the Zylight F8-200 will be.
 
Yeouch! Over 2-grand per light. That counts me out...

But WOW.
Between these and those Fiilex MONSTERS...LED lighting is REALLY getting sophisticated.
Incredible stuff here.
 
Eric Coughlin said:
If you're wanting a 2k equivalent LED Fresnel there's also the Fiilex Q-1000 to consider. It has the advantage of wide ranged bi-color and hue adjustments. Zylight F8-200 has a wider range of beam angle.
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Hadn't heard of the new Filex, so thanks! Will need to check it out.

My Gaffer borrowed an early version of Zylight's F8-100 to test drive & but there was a flaw in the focusing mechanism that kept me from buying in. Thankfully the flaw's been remedied.

Both companies use high quality LED with great color, so size, weight, build, & output, will likely determine any decision. I was impressed by Zylight's robust construction, & less so by Filex's previous offerings. Whichever (if any) make the cut will largely be decided on how well I think they'd survive international travel.
 
Zylight F8 is also weather proof. This video below is pretty cool. Skip to 5:50 to see the Zylight completely frozen over but still working.


I saw a video which said they're aiming to price the F8-200 around $3000, which would be less than the Fiilex. The Fiilex is stated as being 1500-2000 watt Tungsten equivalent, which I gather would mean it's around 2000 watt equivalent at 4300k and 1500 watt equivalent at 3200k and 5600k.

The Zylight F8-100 has a 90 watt power draw, I believe the Zylight F8-200 is around 200 watts, the Fiilex Q500 has a 185 watt power draw, and the Fiilex Q1000 has a 340 watt power draw. This would lead me to believe that the Fiilex lights are brighter, particularly at 4300k. I guess if they're only using half of the power draw (170 watts) at 3200k and 5600k it'd be a bit less bright than the Zylight; I'm not sure if half the brightness and power draw is always how bi-color lights work at 3200k and 5600k?

Red Shark News said:
Zylight claims that the light output of the F8, the daylight version, is equivalent to a 1000W fresnel. A good rule of thumb is to consider that the average white LED will have an efficiency (strictly, a luminous efficacy) about four or five times that of tungsten in the range of wavelengths we care about. Quantum dots are a little better, but the purpose of the technology is really to control colour, not maximise output. As such, we would expect the kilowatt claim to be overstated by about a stop, which corresponds at least broadly to reality, although the device is still a lot more powerful than otherwise equivalent tungsten and the behaviour is not entirely comparable in either case. A hundred-watt light is more or less the largest that can reasonably be run from camera batteries, however, which is a useful option that becomes a little less practical on the upcoming 200-watt version.
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Fiilex also sells an 8" Fresnel Lens accessory which gives you a beam angle of 10 degrees to 25 degrees. Not cheap and a bit of a pain to have to slap it on, but nice to know it's an option. They've also got a dome and other nice accessories which are an advantage over the Zylight.

I know the Zylight F8-100 you can slap a V-mount or Anton Bauer directly on the back of it; they're saying the F8-200 can be powered via Anton Bauer and V-mount as well, I'd guess also by slapping them directly on the back of the light, which is really cool. I think the Fiilex Q1000 can be battery powered, but I don't know how, and the ergonomics don't allow for directly applying two Anton Bauers to the light.

I feel like when I'm shooting with Tungsten lighting it means the windows are shut and I'm not battling daylight, so a lower powered light generally will suffice for tungsten interiors.

I'm very interested in the Practilite 602 as a lower powered bi-color LED Fresnel, and I know in their videos at NAB they mentioned they plan to make a higher powered version (I believe they said "four times the power") after the Practilite starts shipping, and the Practilite is supposed to start shipping in about a week or two is what they told me. So that could be another option coming for higher powered LED Fresnels.

One of the local video companies I work for just bought a Mole-Richardson 900W SeniorLED Daylite Fresnel after I recommended it to them. I got to play around with it at their studio last week. Pretty nice, though a bit heavy (41 lbs) and large for a lot of my work. It's equivalent to a 1200 watt HMI or 5000 watt tungsten without all the drawbacks of HMI and tungsten.

If I wanted that much power I'd be tempted to get two Zylight F8-200s instead though since two of them would be smaller and lighter, though sometimes it is nice to have one particularly powerful fixture. Set up two Zylight F8-200s outside (with no power outlets available) powered by four Anton Bauer batteries, and you've got a 4k battery powered fill or possibly key light for a day time interview if it's not too bright outside.
 
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