Zoom h4n + wireless mic combo

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andrew00

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Hey,

So I've got a Zoom h4, but am thinking of getting a h4n for the 4 channel recording. I've got to Senn G2's and am interested in being able to mic up two people and also record an on camera room source w/the h4n.

Plan would be to mount the h4n ontop of the 5d, probably with a small prime + z-finder to keep it small and light.

However that brings up the issue of the G2 receivers. If they are plugged into the h4n, where can one store them? I've seen shoulder rigs with them on plates and arms and so on, but I'm not talking about expanding gear. I'm talking about how to store the receivers when you want less gear and a small profile.

Does anyone have suggestions on how to carry the g2 receivers in a way that allows them to plug into a 5d mounted h4n, whilst also giving you some movement. As I said, focus being on stealth and low profile, not on adding more gear.

I've thought about putting them in a shoulder bag, but the g2 cable isn't that long. One could use an extension cable but then you risk lowering the audio quality and/or having it all come apart.
 
Aye, although then w/the h4n you miss also getting the on-camera ambient mic & double systeming it w/the 5d' audio for easier syncing.
 
with the h4n with the is the input into the 5d /7d(for sync) your head phone jack or is there a separate headphone jack on the h4n to monitor the signal.
 
Yes kind of - the headphone jack is used for monitoring the sound/listening to recordings.

But you an also plug the 5d into that output and record it directly, like recording a live stream.

You can also get a splitter that will let you do both.
 
Aye I was thinking about that - XLR to XLR into the Zoom.

I'm not an audio guy though - does anyone know if the quality will suffer because of using an extension/second cable?

I remember Billy Corgan I think it was talking about how you want to avoid using long guitar leads for that reason, I don't know if it will have an effect on XLR's.
 
Ah excellent, as that'd prob be easier than buying the bracket due to space/weight considerations w/handheld shooting.

Does the same apply for jacks? the guitar ones the zoom also takes (I forget the tech name! 3.5" i think?!)

Or is what I said about the signal degrading true - in which case one should def use xlr if avail.
 
It's not the audio signal degrading that you need to worry about. BUT - You can turn just about any cable into an antenna... especially on longer runs (50'+) with cheaper gear. The cables can pickup all sorts of fun RF interference.

Interference is less of an issue on XLR or TRS cables becaused they're "balanced" - the audio signals are 180 out of phase on two cables- when interference is introduced, that signal will be in phase across both cables and can be identified as noise and cancelled.

1/4 Guitar cables are unbalanced and more susceptible to picking up interference.

But in this instance - we're talking 5 feet of cable - what ever you choose will probably work fine. But if were me, I'd still go XLR.
 
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