FS7: Zeiss Milvus

icarusfilm said:
Like it or not these standards will start disappearing in the next decade. With the end of 35mm film and the introduction of digital sensors.
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Standards will change, but the laws of physics won't:-)

Anyway, we'll all be using light field cameras and liquid lenses before too long...
 
You may well be right and at some point in the next decade we can revisit the topic.

There's a still a load of young up and coming people out there who want to learn and do things correctly. Equally there's a ton of people who think everything Philip Bloom says is gospel and whose only training is watching videos feature on NoFilmSchool. And of course there's people who have developed their own language and way of working and not had to come into contct with other senior people while they worked their way up. One assumes the future will be split between older and more experienced versions of all these people.

Back on topic:

My Milvus 21mm has arrived. Seems well made. Focus ring a little stiffer than the Otus but that may be due to temp differences as it had just come off the truck.

Feels smaller and lighter than my Contax one was. Close focus test shot to come.
 
I agree Ben... ...Nearly wrote a similar comment earlier.

"Back on topic"

If you put that 21mm on your A7s, does it confirm focus in any way? (asking for a friend;-))
 
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I've got a biggish sexy project starting at the beginning of September which will be the real test of the lens. Lots of wide vistas needed. Hopefully can get an Otus 28mm on it as well and compare and contrast them.
 
Completely disagree but at the same time that's wide open focusing as closely as possible into an incredibly busy backdrop on a sunny day full of specular highlights. So basically the worst of possible scenarios.

How boring it would be if we liked the same things in an image.
 
Doug Jensen said:
Really? The bokeh on those first two flower shots is pretty ugly looking. Nasty stuff.
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A touch harsh Doug- the bokeh's never going to be as creamy as the 50mm or 85mm, maybe it's a little nervous, but I would't call it nasty. Looking at Ben's third pic, It seems to have minimal barrell distortion for a wide, which is what I was mainly reacting to.


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Click through and look at them on Flickr, bokeh looks perfectly fine.
 
Liam Hall said:
A touch harsh Doug- the bokeh's never going to be as creamy as the 50mm or 85mm, maybe it's a little nervous, but I would't call it nasty. Looking at Ben's third pic, It seems to have minimal barrell distortion for a wide, which is what I was mainly reacting to.
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No, it's not harsh. That is really, really ugly stuff.
 
The 21 zeiss is not really a lens you want to use for shallow depth of field you want to shoot it at 5.6-8 to greate very sharp deep focus contrasty images.
 
icarusfilm said:
The 21 zeiss is not really a lens you want to use for shallow depth of field you want to shoot it at 5.6-8 to greate very sharp deep focus contrasty images.
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Absolutely. To clarify, I want to find the limits before I find the sweet spots of a lens.

At the same time I am a huge fan of close focus on a wide lens and use it a fair bit in narrative stuff.


Zeiss 28mm 'Hollywood' screengrab examples, before they fixed the raw output between the FS7 and 7Q

Ringtone - Short Film grabs by Ben Scott, on Flickr

Ringtone - Short Film grabs by Ben Scott, on Flickr
 
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