FS7: Zebra recommendations for fleshtones in Cine EI

bengiles

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Quick numpty question. On the Canon C cams, I was generally exposing for fleshtones, so I had zebras set at 65% IIRC to avoid nasty clipping on skin. Sometimes that got me more noise or clipping in other areas that I might not be able to control, but at least peoples' faces looked right - for me, the most crucial aspect.

So... for those of you who've been using this beast for the past couple of months, do you use a zebra for fleshtones or do you just zebra for 90% and find you have enough wiggle room to tame overexposed skin?

Until we have WFM in Cine EI, I've considered using Zebra 2 as my 90% and Zebra 1 at - say - 70% and aperture 3 to warn me of over-blown bald spots etc... crap idea?

Cheers,

Ben.
 
Whatever anyone says IMO the Slog3 is a pretty linear 'curve' - which means unlike a camera with a 'knee' which could ruin skin - the skin level is IMO not that critical - as long as you are sensibly below a 90 (lut on) zebra for your highlights

When the (bald head etc) skin is ​the highlight Id stop down so zebra does not show on that area.

linear = latitude = flex in post

S
 
Not sure if this is correct so I'd like an opinion.

I've been keeping the VF zebras at 90 for an overall scene assessment of highlights.

Then on my 7Q (which is always on my camera), I set the Zebras at 70 (the lowest it will go) for skin tones.

Does that sound about right?

And of course I rely on other things like the VF LUT, waveform and Histo as well.
 
Yes Sam, knee is linear, I saw a graphic form Sony somewhere that showed it.

I go no LUT. Zebra on 62, aperture 3 for 90% white. Mids on or around 41IRE on the waveform, checking when pos with a pop-up gray card. If it's an interview I might flick the LUT on for a quick eyeball of exposure. I haven't had a single issue with skin tone in the three months I've used the camera.
 
Do Zebras take in account the LUT/Look you are using on the Viewfinder? OR does it simply apply to the source?
 
You need to be careful when talking about Zebras that you are the same page. Pre slog I put zebras at 60 and exposed with a healthy zebra on the face. But I know people who set zebras at 70 and keep the exposure just shy of the zebra. That's completely different and i got in trouble on a multi cam where I wasn't clear to people about how zebras were set. I had 2 camera guys treating them opposite . One was overexposed and one was under. Don't have it figured out for Cine EI yet though.
 
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