z1 and progressive
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Barry_Green
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Re: z1 and progressive
Always interlaced no matter what. There is no progressive in the Sony HDV cameras.
Always interlaced no matter what. There is no progressive in the Sony HDV cameras.
Re: z1 and progressive
That's not HDV. That's HD.
That's not HDV. That's HD.
xray
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Re: z1 and progressive
[quote author=TommyMack link=board=sony;num=1101575608;start=0#5 date=11/29/04 at 09:17:22]
It's HBO.
tm[/quote]
anyway...Interlaced is something from the sixtees. Its harder to compress, it takes more bandwith, and its more difficult for slow motion.
[quote author=TommyMack link=board=sony;num=1101575608;start=0#5 date=11/29/04 at 09:17:22]
It's HBO.
tm[/quote]
anyway...Interlaced is something from the sixtees. Its harder to compress, it takes more bandwith, and its more difficult for slow motion.
Re: z1 and progressive
[quote author=xray link=board=sony;num=1101575608;start=0#9 date=11/29/04 at 20:20:38]
anyway...Interlaced is more difficult for slow motion.[/quote]
Is that why both Sony and Panasonic HD cameras do their overcranking in interlace as opposed to progressive?
[quote author=xray link=board=sony;num=1101575608;start=0#9 date=11/29/04 at 20:20:38]
anyway...Interlaced is more difficult for slow motion.[/quote]
Is that why both Sony and Panasonic HD cameras do their overcranking in interlace as opposed to progressive?
Barry_Green
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Re: z1 and progressive
Not sure what you mean there. The CineAlta doesn't do any overcranking, and the Panasonic VariCam shoots only progressive, all the way to 60P.
Not sure what you mean there. The CineAlta doesn't do any overcranking, and the Panasonic VariCam shoots only progressive, all the way to 60P.
Re: z1 and progressive
[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=sony;num=1101575608;start=0#11 date=11/29/04 at 20:50:57]Not sure what you mean there. The CineAlta doesn't do any overcranking, and the Panasonic VariCam shoots only progressive, all the way to 60P.[/quote]
To do slo-mo in Cinealta you shoot at 30i 0r 60i and then playback on a deck, or when digitized in at 24fps, you, in effect, get over cranking.
Sony doesnt do it in camera, but it was made to do it with the Cinealta system. Panny does do it in camera...thought panny did in camera at 60i, my bad. as i said im more familiar with Sony.
[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=sony;num=1101575608;start=0#11 date=11/29/04 at 20:50:57]Not sure what you mean there. The CineAlta doesn't do any overcranking, and the Panasonic VariCam shoots only progressive, all the way to 60P.[/quote]
To do slo-mo in Cinealta you shoot at 30i 0r 60i and then playback on a deck, or when digitized in at 24fps, you, in effect, get over cranking.
Sony doesnt do it in camera, but it was made to do it with the Cinealta system. Panny does do it in camera...thought panny did in camera at 60i, my bad. as i said im more familiar with Sony.
Barry_Green
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Re: z1 and progressive
That's how I do it in the DVX as well, but I didn't know Sony was promoting that as a feature. But seeing as it shoots at 24/25/30/50i/60i, that's pretty much the only way you could do it...
As for the VariCam, it only shoots progressive, at any frame rate from 4 to 33 fps, plus 40 and 60.
That's how I do it in the DVX as well, but I didn't know Sony was promoting that as a feature. But seeing as it shoots at 24/25/30/50i/60i, that's pretty much the only way you could do it...
As for the VariCam, it only shoots progressive, at any frame rate from 4 to 33 fps, plus 40 and 60.
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Re: z1 and progressive
[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=sony;num=1101575608;start=0#13 date=11/29/04 at 21:17:51]That's how I do it in the DVX as well, but I didn't know Sony was promoting that as a feature. But seeing as it shoots at 24/25/30/50i/60i, that's pretty much the only way you could do it...
As for the VariCam, it only shoots progressive, at any frame rate from 4 to 33 fps, plus 40 and 60.[/quote]
Well, tried to log in on another computer and it saysmy username doesnt exist...whatever...
So, yeah I've used that technique with the DVX as well
I don't know if Sony markets that technique or not, they do know about it.
And the infamous Jeff Cree teaches it. Everything I know about the F900 I learned from the that man.
[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=sony;num=1101575608;start=0#13 date=11/29/04 at 21:17:51]That's how I do it in the DVX as well, but I didn't know Sony was promoting that as a feature. But seeing as it shoots at 24/25/30/50i/60i, that's pretty much the only way you could do it...
As for the VariCam, it only shoots progressive, at any frame rate from 4 to 33 fps, plus 40 and 60.[/quote]
Well, tried to log in on another computer and it saysmy username doesnt exist...whatever...
So, yeah I've used that technique with the DVX as well
I don't know if Sony markets that technique or not, they do know about it.
And the infamous Jeff Cree teaches it. Everything I know about the F900 I learned from the that man.
Re: z1 and progressive
[quote author=John_Q_Public link=board=sony;num=1101575608;start=0#10 date=11/29/04 at 20:30:15]
Is that why both Sony and Panasonic HD cameras do their overcranking in interlace as opposed to progressive?[/quote]
..to get back in line with this issue here.
i wouldnt say that interlaced material is " more difficult" to get slow motion from, id say its pretty much the same, but obviously , if given the choice, progressive would be the way to go. varicam as barry mentioned will shoot 60p which is much preffered to 60i anyday. if the sony could do 60p it would be used over 60i .. unfortunately it can only do 60i so it is the only available option.
[quote author=John_Q_Public link=board=sony;num=1101575608;start=0#10 date=11/29/04 at 20:30:15]
Is that why both Sony and Panasonic HD cameras do their overcranking in interlace as opposed to progressive?[/quote]
..to get back in line with this issue here.
i wouldnt say that interlaced material is " more difficult" to get slow motion from, id say its pretty much the same, but obviously , if given the choice, progressive would be the way to go. varicam as barry mentioned will shoot 60p which is much preffered to 60i anyday. if the sony could do 60p it would be used over 60i .. unfortunately it can only do 60i so it is the only available option.