YouTube and revenue sharing - use & monetize audio tracks...

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Lowlypawn

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I have a question about YouTube, revenue sharing, using & monetize audio tracks...

First off some background info. I have a video on YouTube called Armagosa Dunes - Beautiful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS9AnxqLYh4. It's nothing special but yet amazingly the video gets 10x the hits of all my other videos? It's totally baffling to me but anyway. Apparently if you have a video on YouTube that gets more then 10,000 hits you will receive an E-mail with an offer to apply for revenue sharing.

I am considering applying but one of the qualifications is: "You own or have express permission to use and monetize all audio and video content that you upload - no exceptions."

Well the video is mine but the audio (song) I got the off www.newgrounds.com with the following licensing terms.

Attribution: You must give credit to the artist. (which I do)

Noncommercial: You may not use this work for commercial purposes unless you make specific arrangements with the artist under another license.

Share Alike: If you alter, transform, or build upon this music, you may distribute the resulting creation only under a license identical to this one.

So basically I can use the song as long as I give credit (which I do in the comments of all my videos). But... If I make one penny then it's no longer non commercial.

I'm pretty sure the guy would give me permission because without me the song would have gotten much less exposure, He is not making money on it right now and I'm more then willing to give him a % of whatever I make. I don't think it will be much money but I have seen videos MUCH MUCH MUCH!!!! worse go viral and get 2 million hits. If that ever happens (which I doubt) I would be very disappointed I didn't pursue this.


Ok here are my questions:

1) Should I contact the author of the song and ask for written permission?
2) I would be more then willing to give him a cut of the profits. What's a fair %? What's the going rate? I was thinking 25% of what ever I got from the video. I highly doubt it will be more then $200 in a year So I would send him 50 bucks.
3) Should I just say screw it and leave it as is, everything free?


Don't believe me retarded videos can get a stupid amount of views. Watch this one! 373,500+ and counting!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElClrnTGrEk

Thanks in advance for any advice.
 
arroway said:
Did Google say what percentage of advertising they're willing to share with you?
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No they don't tell you until you sign up. And it's hard to find good information, sounds like there are a ton of variables. Some say it's around 10 dollars for 500 views while others say you get paid every time someone clicks on an add. Those figures range from $1 dollar per click to as low as .01 per click.
 
Talk to him. I think if you make $200, giving him $50 would be fair, but he does have all the leverage here to accept or deny whatever he wants.

Additionally, if you do get all your ducks in order and sign up for the revenue sharing, I would be very interested in hearing what % Google discloses to you, although I'm not convinced they'll even give you a number...
 
I have Youtube videos that are revenue sharing, and partner videos.

There is no hard number like 10,000 views for a video to be monetized, anyone who says that is wrong. Youtube decides when the video is "popular" based on a number of factors, views being only one of them. They will then ask if you want to monetize it.

To be a full blown Youtube partner you need lots of channel views AND subscribers. Subscribers is very important.

Money is earned by click as well, not view. It is similar to adsense. People need to click the ad in, or next to your video to receive money. It is not much money, at all. You will not make $200 on a single video unless it has MILLIONS of views. Not thousands.

If you have music, you will need written permission and will need to attach it to the application form as an explanation of why you used the music. It will need to explain the rights, and how they are licensed for you to use on Youtube and elsewhere.
 
arroway said:
Did they disclose the % of advertising revenue you're getting?
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Google doesnt tell anyone how much of a click revenue you get. You can calculate how much per click you are earning sometimes, but you do not know how much the advertiser paid for that click. Thats how Adsense, Youtube and all of Googles goodies work.

Depending on your content, and how much the advertiser bids for that type of content/ad your click rate will go up/down. But usually it isnt very much, tens of cents per click or less.
 
Your answer is in the following:

Noncommercial: You may not use this work for commercial purposes unless you make specific arrangements with the artist under another license.


 
I almost forgot about this post. Guess I'll do a quick update.

I did contact the artist and he would be fine with a 25% cut. But I did some math from this article.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1306329/Revealed-YouTube-rich-list.html

Doing the math on all the "Top Youtube earners". It works out to about .0007 cents per view.... So If I got 50,000 views this year I might get a whopping $35 bucks.... I could just click the box I own all the rights to the music and video, then send the artist a check once a year for $8.75 on honor. And then try and do that for all my video... Screw that. Not worth it. So I decided not to become a YouTube partner.

Also check this out...
http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2010/09/14/pm-no-blog-tax-in-philadelphia/
In Philadelphia a guy made $11 on a blog. The government sends him a notice he must sign up for a "Business Privilege License" for $50 a year, or $300 for a lifetime. There is nothing like that in Nevada as far as I know but just another reason to avoid the hassle.
 
Trying to run a 'legit' business in America, particularly the Northeast, is futile. The last couple of times I registered, the property taxes were more than the gross income for the entire year.
These youtube revenue sharing things only make sense if you have a billion views each month. A few thousand isn't going to cut it. Heck, I get a dozen views a year on many of my videos. Nah, not worth it.
 
DVXUSER is the best, just search and boom a thread on the topic. Just wondering if anyone had any more recent experiences with youtube?
 
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