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PhilaDvXphia

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Do you have a video on YOUTUBE or MYSPACE?

Post a link to it here and include EXACTLY what settings/format you used to get the image quality that you have.

Who has the best quality image and how did you get it to look so good! Especially those who shot with the DVX100A and edited in Final Cut Pro! How did you get your video to look great regardless of these sites re-compressing your footage? Who here figured it out and got the best looking upload?
 
final cut pro/compressor/quicktime

final cut pro/compressor/quicktime

Hey rcbrown23 -

Did you ever figure out how to get those results using Quicktime and Compressor?? I've been trying unsuccessfully for so long that it's driving me crazy...

Thanks for any input/tips. I'm damn near losing it here with all this experimenting.
 
PhilaDvXphia said:
Also already tried the second one...didn't get good results.
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Damn... I was hoping for good (decent) quality from that one.

Nope, haven't found a way with compressor... I honestly haven't been trying, as I have my own website:happy:
 
i tried the method described, flv format, but youtube doesnt accept that file type. what to do next??
 
Yea I have videos on both sites and I seem to have better looking videos on Myspace than on YouTube but I know for a fact the YT recompresses the video. I've used what I think are close to the highest quality settings when I am compressing my footage using Compressor 2.

I have seen a bunch of videos from mainstream artists that were on both sites and they look crystal clear with no recompression as if you were watching them on TV. Now I know those videos were shot on film but how in the world did they get it to look so crystal clear???
 
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This is from the YouTube help center:

What's the best format to upload for high quality?


We recommend the following settings:

MPEG4 (Divx, Xvid) format
320x240 resolution
MP3 audio
30 frames per second
Resizing your video to these specifications before uploading will help your videos look better on YouTube.

and this:

What video file formats can I upload?


YouTube accepts video files from most digital cameras, camcorders, and cell phones in the .WMV, .AVI, .MOV, and .MPG file formats.
 
The maximum file size to upload to YouTube is 100MB. I recommend that you upload 30fps 320 x 240 h264 quicktime at the highest data rate that will allow you to keep the final file under 100MB. Don't forget to figure in the audio. 48kbs MP3 should be fine. Regardless, YouTube quality will be poor until they upgrade to the ON2 codec for Flash Player 8 and above. I would expect that to happen sometime this year . . . hopefully.
 
DVX100Shooter said:
Yea I have videos on both sites and I seem to have better looking videos on Myspace than on YouTube but I know for a fact the YT recompresses the video. I've used what I think are close to the highest quality settings when I am compressing my footage using Compressor 2.

I have seen a bunch of videos from mainstream artists that were on both sites and they look crystal clear with no recompression as if you were watching them on TV. Now I know those videos were shot on film but how in the world did they get it to look so crystal clear???
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This is just speculation on my part, but it is entirely possible that certain content uploaded by certain individuals might be allowed to either upload without recompression or upload with better quality. Those individuals might be media companies, etc, that have popular content on the site. In any case, it might be beyond your control as a normal user.
 
I just uploaded a video to youtube using Premiere Pro 1.5 I used Sorenson inside Adobe to compress it. You've got to upload 4:3 if you want letterboxed widescreen on myspace and youtube.[figured that one out today lol] The file size was 50.1mb before i sent it to youtube. Using h.264 my file size was around 99.4mb and that codec up'd the contrast and brightness of my videos. I like Sorenson better as of right now. heres the link to the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McjbFeLJq7Q.
 
YouTube also scales video up to play back at a larger size than the compression. This really makes it look worse than it needs to. Check out my video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsh3Bf6PIYs

and click the "play actual size" icon in the bottom right of the player (the one that is a rectangle inside a rectangle). It doesn't look too bad considering the low datarate.

Also, as a general compression rule, you'll get much better results if whatever you film is done with a stationary camera (tripod, no pans or zooms).
 
PhilaDvXphia said:
Do you have a video on YOUTUBE or MYSPACE?

Post a link to it here and include EXACTLY what settings/format you used to get the image quality that you have.

Who has the best quality image and how did you get it to look so good! Especially those who shot with the DVX100A and edited in Final Cut Pro! How did you get your video to look great regardless of these sites re-compressing your footage? Who here figured it out and got the best looking upload?
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I too have been trying without much success to get better quality out of YouTube. Or, as I like to call it S**tTube. I've also followed the instructions in this link, to a T

http://ellingtonmedia.com/blog/2007/03/07/6-tips-for-high-quality-youtube-video/

sorry, if it's the same link that rcbrown23 just gave...........great link though

Someone on one of these YouTube/compression threads mentioned "Garbage in, garbage out". So, if you produce a well shot and lit film/video the better chance your video will have being crisp & clear in YouTube land. I have yet to achieve this, but will be sure to pay greater attention in the future.

mikecost.....great video! Cracked up on the theme as well as being well shot & edited. I don't have Sorenson, but have heard mostly good things about it.

Bodean....also great video. Very, very well shot. You both managed really good quality. Much better than my attempt at conquering the YouTube/compression demon.

I shot this on a DVX-100B at 24p. Used Quicktime Pro h.264 at 2000kbps and 24fps. I didn't address the audio (which is off fractionally)....probably due to the fact that I have some missing (blank) frames which can throw off audio sync. The dark parts retain that lovely YouTube fuzz, but the better lit scenes (in the bar) have a slightly better quality than when I put up the same vid without the improved compression settings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcYR0VQ7lLI

Philly....sorry if there's no new info for you in this post, but I seem to find myself in the same boat as you. I've been doing this compression dance for the past 2-3 weeks.
Maybe, as stated earlier in this thread, YouTube will improve things on THEIR end and we'll all be happy.

Aloha

Chris
 
the recent creative cow magazine describes a way to upload files without youtube compressing them. I recently followed this and there was no change in compression...although you do lose initial quality.

This only works by using something like after effects to export the file as an .flv using FLASH 7 SORENSON SPARK (not the newer flash 8 vp6)

i only did one encode but im sure you can get crazy good results with this.
 
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