wow. MFT for the win. eos live mount for F3. dream for doc shooters.

Finally!
Even being a bit on chunky size (the box with LCD), it is a big step in a right direction. Now, if only other companies would wake up, stop promising and deliver...
 
Does it allow Stabilization ? it's not mentioned on the HD Warrior link
 
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At this point, the first solution that become available for my FS100 I'm going to probably jump on. It's either that or buy new lenses and I *really* like my lenses already :)
 
My take is, that this is just a first one and that it will be others better and (hopefully) cheaper... All power to Mike Tappa, he sold so many F3s for Sony with his first Nikon adapter (mine, at least). I am hardly waiting to mount all my Canon L primes on F3...
 
I guess if you already have money invested in Canon EF mount lenses and don't want a duplicate Nikon set for say your F3, FS100, etc... then I suppose $1000 is worth it, fair enough. I just hate intermediary devices/processes/etc.. but I guess as technology continues to evolve us filmmakers will always be caught in-between somehow. In a controlled setting I could manage to twiddle with a separate box to dial in my aperture, but for anything "live" I could not. (don't forget to think about batteries for it, cable, mount, etc,..)
 
I really dont get what he is doing

Surely once you are talking to the lens you could do focus too

I dont know the protocols but that was my impression

I hate diddling with follow focii for quick lens swaps

One of the joys of the OKii USB/Canon DSLR combo is the fast lens swaps and ability to pull focus without touching the lens (great for 70-200 without support)

Of course both OKii and canon DSLR have issues

a controller with both iris and focus (for my FS) might persuade me to swap to canon glass, and even get rid of my nikon d3 and go for a canon still camera

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All he is doing is allowing you to dial in the aperture on the Canon lens when its mounted to a "dumb" mount for use with a video camera like the AF100, FS100, or F3. As you already know, if you use a Canon EOS lens on an adapter the aperture wil be "set" to whatever it was set to last when mounted on a Canon DSLR camera.

Yes earlier this year Okki (http://www.okii.net/Articles.asp?ID=238) worked with the Canon USB protocol to interface with the Canon lenses and get it to control the focus on the lens as cheap alternative to a remote follow focus system. Okki's price was around $400.

With this new MTF Canon adapter for now you can only control the iris, but surely it would be easy enough to also use it to control focus too since its using the Canon USB protocol. If you ask me, he should have built it so it did both off the bat, that would give us something to dance and sing about. Again, at $1000 I don't think it is worth it unless you really have a lot of money tied up in high speed Canon EOS glass. You could just as easily buy the MTF Nikon adapter and use newer Nikon lenses which can still have their aperture controlled using the blue ring on the MTF adapter...

...for the purpose of one or two "ENG" lenses you could just as well buy a few good Nikon DX lenses and get away with needing only one mount for your old or new glass.
 
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Focus is big - but useless without direct, immediate, small increment iris adjustments. The twist-off the DSLR iris setting method might work in a pinch in an interview set-up (until the talent leans forward toward the light) but without direct iris control EF glass won't work for me.

Sign me up for a Birger but I'll buy the MTF as well if it's available first!
 
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Again, at $1000 I don't think it is worth it unless you really have a lot of money tied up in high speed Canon EOS glass. Y
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If it did both well it would be worth a $1000 or more

Considering the lack of need for a FF, operability from a remote device (crane) speedy lens changes reducing downtime in production etc etc

Doing just iris I think it will push a rigged camera further in the direction of looking like a christmas tree and introducing more leads to break, batts to go flat etc

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I guess if you already have money invested in Canon EF mount lenses and don't want a duplicate Nikon set for say your F3, FS100, etc... then I suppose $1000 is worth it, fair enough. I just hate intermediary devices/processes/etc.. but I guess as technology continues to evolve us filmmakers will always be caught in-between somehow. In a controlled setting I could manage to twiddle with a separate box to dial in my aperture, but for anything "live" I could not. (don't forget to think about batteries for it, cable, mount, etc,..)
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A. no price has been announced yet, 1000 dollars is just speculation.

B. adding focusing into it, increases the complexity of the unit, because you'll have to calibrate every lens you use, and although it's nice to be able to be able to do that, and maybe even pull focus remotely like a birger, that's probably one of the hardest parts in programming with the unit. getting it to talk focus wise, and the calibration software. for all you know, just keeping it super simple to just be able to control aperture might make this thin 600 dollars, vs 1k+ like the birger. Again specialtion... IT could be $400.... or $4,000

C. birger is notorious for taking their time with their products. what they make is very good, they just take a really really long time. they promised that their mount would ship right after NAB. never happened.

D. maybe mtf IS working on focus control... the one they have at IBC is just a prototype after all...
 
It's absolutely silly to have this huge box, knob, lemo power, lcd display for iris control.
The RR unit is more like it-small and simple. But it's way too expensive. Hopefully MTF will have focus control otherwise it's a vaporware- too big, too pricey for what it's doing...
 
There is no price yet!

Unless someone can send me a link..... how do you know how expensive it is ir isn't....

This is pretty ungrateful, the man works his ass off to bring a product to market, and without knowing anything other than "THE PROTOTYPE" has a seperate box, suddenly its too expensive.
 
From Bloom blog "Price wise, he doesn’t know yet but he expects it to be in the “£900″ price range for the box and one mount"

IMO thats a little too much for iris but £1200 might be ok for both.. IMO

I dont understand the canon tech but it would seem to me that once you are talking (to the lens) you might as well have the whole conversation, I would imagine it is actually starting the chat that is difficult


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If the regular adapters are $450 for the F3, you can bet a newer Canon mount with contact points for the EOS lenses along with an off-board box with circuit board, microprocessor, programming, cable, battery, etc... is going to easily add another $500 to the overall cost. I mean the whole kaboodle isn't goint to sell for $500 total that's for sure.. I hope I'm wrong.

I certainly don't mean to disrespect the man or anyone here, I'm just tired of all these work-arounds we always seem to have to work with.. pain in the arse that's all. If it works for you or anyone else, so be it, that's cool.

If you're JUST SHOOTING ENG then you can buy one DX lens and be done with it, if you have a HUGE investment in EOS prime lenses then maybe this is the ticket.
 
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