worst decade for movies?

[Batutta]

People STILL buy and drink White Zinfandel -- even though they like it does NOT mean they are drinking good wine.

However, by only letting people drink and by extension 'enjoy' good wine who are 'in the business' is elitist at worst, selfish at best.

The key, of course... is moderation in tone. A know-it-all will be less listened to than someone who consistently offers fine wine at their table whilst keeping a chilled bottle of WZ in the fridge too.

Remember that amazing (probably one of the best you'll ever see) film school lesson Dennis Hopper gave on composition of a scene... a birthday party... with a still camera.... on TV.... IN A COMMERCIAL!!

A beautiful lesson where we all felt a little smarter for watching.

"I only talk this way to people in the industry" -- sorry for you.

CaptM

Actually Mench, after reading this again, I think you completely misunderstood me. I never suggested anything elitist. Of course people who aren't professional filmmakers can make the distinction as to what is and isn't a great film and are allowed to 'enjoy' whatever they want. I don't even know how you came away with that idea. To go with your wine metaphor, I myself know nothing about wine, but I have tastebuds and know what I like. What the professional wine conniseour knows more deeply is why I like it, where the flavors come from, how it's made and by whom. I might not care. I might just want to get drunk. That's the point I was making.

 

[Drew Ott]

It's true that if somebody is used to hearing certain chord progressions and scales, other chord progressions and scales will sound bad until they become used to them. Though there are obviously some counterexamples to what Sad Max is saying (it's possible for one who is accustomed to Western music to appreciate Indian music), his point is valid.

Source: http://www.amazon.com/This-Your-Brain-Music-Obsession/dp/0525949690

I also agree with the point made about the almost complete subjectivity of all art, once technical aspects are removed. Most kids in my English class groan when we have to read Shakespeare, for example.

 

[ElectricMayhem]

Just wanted to point out that your screen name's awesome.

Thank you! Its reference does have the tendency to slip by a few people. It also earned me the nickname of "Dr. Teeth" on set a few years back.

What happened to the original poster? No more insight? Or just lighting the fuse and walking away...

 

[Scott F]

even though it's kind of pointless at this point:

How could the 80's be classified as suck? rogar-Dum(DBG):

-Blade Runner
-Repo Man
-Easy Money
-Fast Times at Ridgemont High
-The Wild Life
-Empire Strikes Back
-Return of the Jedi
-Escape From New York
-Predator
-Aliens
-To Live and Die in LA
-The Terminator

Just wondering, what is the OP's favorite decade for films?

 

[karapetkov]

There's math in art, but art is not math.

(thank God... )

 

[Richard J. Johnson]

Well if one was a child in the 80's he or she may not have understood films such as platoon or blade runner.

Then if that 80's baby now grown up, decides to get the DVD copy of platoon and Blade Runner the film may not have the same effect 20 plus years later.

Just a thought.

 

[Mattykins]

I would say the 2000's and up have been terrible for movies. Even more so the latter half. The beginning of the 2000's were decent with new ideas and general fun. But now, same crap over and over and over again.

 

[Batutta]

Well if one was a child in the 80's he or she may not have understood films such as platoon or blade runner.

Then if that 80's baby now grown up, decides to get the DVD copy of platoon and Blade Runner the film may not have the same effect 20 plus years later.

Just a thought.

More often I've had that happen the other way. I saw 2001 and Blade Runner when I was an adolescent and thought they were OK, but no Star Wars. Now I think they are masterpieces that improve with each viewing. My dad loved Raging Bull and The Godfather, and only later when I had the maturity to appreciate them did I see how great they were. I did think Top Gun was the greatest movie ever back in the day and now see it as a steaming cheesefest.

 

[Sad Max]

I liked Predator.

And also, I like eggs.

But, do you like Predator eggs?

 

[Richard J. Johnson]

More often I've had that happen the other way. I saw 2001 and Blade Runner when I was an adolescent and thought they were OK, but no Star Wars. Now I think they are masterpieces that improve with each viewing. My dad loved Raging Bull and The Godfather, and only later when I had the maturity to appreciate them did I see how great they were. I did think Top Gun was the greatest movie ever back in the day and now see it as a steaming cheesefest.

I Still like Top Gun.:beer:

I just saw 2001 for the first time recently and it blew me away. I have never seen Raging Bull though.

I was raised on films from the 80's and I think the films from that decade are "better" than the last decade. I think for me a lot of it has to do with associating those films with my childhood memories. I still remember watching Predator with my Pops on saturday morning at the east 5 theaters near the Harrisburg East Mall and saying "this is the greatest movie ever made" and him turning to me and saying "this is a stupid movie son"

 

[grinner]

60s, hands down.
They still use the templates from the 50s, giving viewers no reason to view.
Every decade before and after advance motion picture ten fold.

 

[Batutta]

I will say the 70's was a pretty bad decade for consumer cars. Man they made some ugly rust buckets back then.

 

[Scott F]

I think for me a lot of it has to do with associating those films with my childhood memories.

Bingo! All the movies I mentioned evoke memories from when I was a kid, being with family and friends. I remember my dad took me to see my first R rated movie, Beverly Hills Cop, and I thought it was the greatest thing in the world.

On my list, how could I forget The Road Warrior? Or Weird Science? :beer:

 

[Batutta]

Bingo! All the movies I mentioned evoke memories from when I was a kid, being with family and friends. I remember my dad took me to see my first R rated movie, Beverly Hills Cop, and I thought it was the greatest thing in the world.

On my list, how could I forget The Road Warrior? Or Weird Science? :beer:

A lot of those movies still hold up though. Beverly Hills Cop is still pretty good. Weird Science, not so much. The Road Warrior for me is still without question the greatest car mash em up ever. I just heard part 4 is in production with George Miller directing. They are just trying to cast a new Max. I think Russell Crowe would be pretty badass.

 

[Mark Harris]

Weird Science, not so much.

I just lost all respect for you...

 

[Batutta]

I just lost all respect for you...

Come on. I think it's funny, yeah, but not John Hughes's finest hour by a long shot...and i didn't know you had respect for me in the first place, so i'm honored to have lost it. I'll take Breakfast Club, Planes, Trains & Automobiles, Ferris Bueller, Sixteen Candles, even Home Alone over that one....Personal footnote, most of those movies were shot in my hood growing up, the north shore of Chicago.

 

[Scott F]

They are just trying to cast a new Max.

(grumble) Why not just give the role to Christian Bale, he gets everything else....


Breakfast Club was on cable recently and I got sucked in. I think it still holds up.

Weird Science holds a special place in my heart. I used to know the guy who played Wyatt's father. Ha ha, when the picture on the wall comes to life and they start dancing: C'mon, that's not funny?

 

[Batutta]

(grumble) Why not just give the role to Christian Bale, he gets everything else....


Breakfast Club was on cable recently and I got sucked in. I think it still holds up.

Weird Science holds a special place in my heart. I used to know the guy who played Wyatt's father. Ha ha, when the picture on the wall comes to life and they start dancing: C'mon, that's not funny?

Yeah, I can still get a laugh out of it, but I just saw it on cable recently and it didn't seem as good as when I saw it growing up, when I watched it probably 15 times.

 

[ElectricMayhem]

Well if one was a child in the 80's he or she may not have understood films such as platoon or blade runner.

Then if that 80's baby now grown up, decides to get the DVD copy of platoon and Blade Runner the film may not have the same effect 20 plus years later.

Just a thought.

Which would explain why the Original Poster is against the 80's. I believe he's a child of the 90's. So never having seen classic movies before the huge advent of more realistic special effects and CG, of course movies in the 80s look tacky. Regardless of how organic the effects would be.

 

[Batutta]

Which would explain why the Original Poster is against the 80's. I believe he's a child of the 90's. So never having seen classic movies before the huge advent of more realistic special effects and CG, of course movies in the 80s look tacky. Regardless of how organic the effects would be.

But even as a kid of the 80's, in the 80's, I was able to appreciate films made before my time. One of my favorite films I discovered in those early days of home video was Treasure of the Sierra Madre. I think the original poster was just trolling.