working with the Aadyn Tech LED "HMI's"

pulpwoody

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Thanks to Terry Nixon at Texas Media Systems..plug..
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After some insistence, Terry finally plunked down on the Eco Punch and Jab LED lights, so I picked both of them up for the day. The benefits are pretty great, super low power consumption, super high output....crazy high output, they run cool and the light quality is great. The downside, is the size of the Eco Punch light. It's really damn big and was kinda of a pain to load up in the car and get up on the stand, it took two of us, but once is was up on the stand, the yoke was solid and locked into place securely. The build quality on these lights are great, they're built like tanks, so you know they're ready for work. Here's the links to the lights.

http://www.aadyntech.com/light/eco-punch-plus

http://www.aadyntech.com/light/jab-daylight

Our first location using both of these lights was my friends kitchen. I wanted a big, soft, higher key look to the shot, and since the Eco Punch has the output of a 2500 watt HMI, this was easy. We used the Punch as the key, through a 6x6 Scrim Jim with a 1 1/4 stop silk, and used the Eco Jab (575 HMI equivalent) off a bounce for a fill. Here's some BTS shots. I'll post up some screen grabs on Monday, but the shot turned out great. The added bonus, was the lack of heat. We had ten people in a small kitchen, and if we had typical HMI's, we would be sweating our butts off, but we didn't need to worry about any of that.

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We also used the Punch to brighten up a dim hallway shot.

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This is my new go to for situations that need an HMI. They are just as controllable as a typical HMI, you can barndoor them without any strange multi shadows that happen with most LED lights. These are designed to emulate a single source light.

After going in and checking the footage, I didn't notice any green spikes, and the lights seemed to be very even in color. I've used some cheap LED's in the past, and the green spike was awful, but these Aadyn's had far less.

In looking at this chart, and I'm no expert, you can see a lack of a green spike. Yes, it has a green "bulge" but this isn't as bad as some other LED's out there.ECO_PP_Spectrometer.png

A nice note, the Eco Jab, the 575 HMI, only draws 1.8 amps, meaning I could plug in eight of these lights into a household outlet and not pop a circuit!! I don't think that will every happen, that would be a strange scenario, but it's a nice thing to know.

I'll keep posting updates as we use these lights more.
 
I've used both of these lights for a couple location TV shoots, one at Sundance and one on Hollywood Blvd. They are pretty fantastic, but I second the weight issue on the Eco Punch. Muscling them onto a hi-hi roller isn't fun. But for the output and current draw, they can't be beat.
 
Sure they're a little heavier than your average lamp, but considering you no longer need a lens box, two heavy feeder cables, and a ballast that is just as big as the lamp itselff, it seems like a pretty big win all around. I feel like this is the kind of LED technology people should be excited about because it really is a game changer.
 
So what's the price?

7000 pounds without vat in the UK -.- converted directly without taking into account that it might be a bit cheaper in the states: 11.500 dollars.

Which makes it a game changer that only rental houses can afford.
 
It seems you are shooting with c100. Canon cameras are susceptible than say RED to LED's green spike. Everythime i use my Lite Panels with Canom camera the footage looks great, when with RED... it could use more red.
 
7000 pounds without vat in the UK -.- converted directly without taking into account that it might be a bit cheaper in the states: 11.500 dollars.

Which makes it a game changer that only rental houses can afford.

Yep. The price will dictate the market segment. Baby steps. First get the tech right - in this case, have LEDs with a good color profile and enough power, that can be shaped and controlled, that are thermally and energy efficient. That's a big challenge right there. Very big. Once you have that, the top of the market steps in - big productions, rental houses, rich indies. And then comes step two: getting the price down, which can also take time. If the price can be brought down without compromising the product (which is where unfortunately many Chinese "junk" products fail), you open up the market for the true indie masses.

So far, it looks like they're tackling getting the tech part right. But they are nowhere near the price point for a broad market. It is what it is, the big boys are served first, as always.
 
... Once you have that, the top of the market steps in - big productions, rental houses, rich indies...

So far, it looks like they're tackling getting the tech part right. But they are nowhere near the price point for a broad market. It is what it is, the big boys are served first, as always.


The price of the Aadyn Jab and Eco Punch are very close to the equivalent LTM and Arri HMI PARs from my local rental house. Arri 2.5k HMI Par is $425, the Eco Punch Plus is $400. LTM 575w HMI PAR is $250, Jab Daylight is $275. While the purchase price needs work, renting at the same price as HMIs is a good step.
 
7000 pounds without vat in the UK -.- converted directly without taking into account that it might be a bit cheaper in the states: 11.500 dollars.

Which makes it a game changer that only rental houses can afford.

However if going the LED route saves you having to hire a generator to provide the necessary power for a larger HMI, then that's instantly some savings back in your pocket.

I gave the EcoPunch a good deal of thought recently (an ex-demo model was going for a great price), but ultimately the colour on all of the samples I could find online was still very underwhelming (still par for the course with most LEDs though they are rapidly improving). But I think if they can get the colour right - the future holds a lot of potential for units like the eco punch.
 
However if going the LED route saves you having to hire a generator to provide the necessary power for a larger HMI, then that's instantly some savings back in your pocket.

I gave the EcoPunch a good deal of thought recently (an ex-demo model was going for a great price), but ultimately the colour on all of the samples I could find online was still very underwhelming (still par for the course with most LEDs though they are rapidly improving). But I think if they can get the colour right - the future holds a lot of potential for units like the eco punch.

Yes, what he said.
We've done two shoots recently that involved a Phantom Miro. Shooting at 1500 fps, the camera becomes a serious light hog, so for both shoots, we had to rent a generator and two 2k lights, which was the minimum we could get away with. If we had these Aadyn LED's, we wouldn't have needed all that extra bulk, gas, noise, and transportation costs and time to set up. These lights, like most tools, don't make sense with certain productions, but for others, they are perfect.

I'm not going out and buying any, since my local rental house now has them, but we will have them out on steady rotation, especially the 575 watt HMI equivalent Jab light. For me, this is where the evolution of gear is the most fun and makes the most sense. We're slowly seeing the barriers between big time, expensive productions, and small to medium budget productions, fall. Tools like these put the little guys in the drivers' seat.
 
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