Wireless suggestions

not always. sometimes you can, sometimes you cant, sometimes you wouldnt want to anyways.

usually the problem is just that you arent on the same set of frequencies as the other system, but even if you're lucky, you'll often have problems to do with companding which is a complicated thing to try and explain.

so, sort answer: occasionally yes, most times no.
 
joemondello said:
If you go this route, check out the tutorial online at DVCreators.

http://dvestore.com/theatre/index.html

scroll down to

theatre_banner_sennheiserg2.jpg


And click the link there. The factory default settings are way too hot for a DVX 100B.
Click to expand...

Thanks for this.
 
What would be the next level up from the sennhieser G2 system? the lectrosonics 100 system? What I'm I more am i getting with the lectro? better sound? better/more secure transmissions?

(I got the ME66 with my DVX and wish I got the audio-technica... didnt do enough research on that one - right... its not rich and warm like the AT)
 
lectro 100 is the next step up, at double the price. the quality of the sound is VASTLY better, but you lose some other features that the G2 has - no digital scanning or even interface on the 100's - thats 2 series and up. That said, the Lectro 100's do sound MUCH better, and its noticable especially in quiet environments where the G2's noise floor can be audible.
 
no, sorry , i meant there is no digital scanning and no digital interface even. The 100 is a "switches lights and knobs" machine only, no display or digital interface.

From the 201 receiver you start seeing LCD displays on the lectro units. even then, lectro arent big on displays on their transmitters, but its actually quite a good thing. :)
 
The 190 series of Lectros give you a much better signal then the G2. You can pick one up for somewhere in the $300 to $600 range on ebay or consignment at all the usual suspects. The big downside? Not frequency agile so if you live near a major metropolitan city it can be a risk even if that frequency is not taking up by a TV channel. I have kept one in Seattle that has been very reliable despite the ever clogging RF spectrum.

Cheers
 
190 would be better than the 100 I take it? Doesn't seem the 190's are still being produced (new)... what's the 190 replacement?
 
the 190 replacement is the... tada! 100 series. So, no, not exactly better. The 100 series has newer components (and so should theoretically offer better results, though im sure exactly how much better they might be), offers the new LM transmitter (which can do digital or analogue wireless - nice upgradable unit), and is a frequency agile system. so its actually quite different. as far as I know, there isnt a comparable product to the 190 being produced at all by anyone at the moment (all systems are agile to avoid the messed up spectrum)

the 190 series is cool, but i would be scared to buy one over there in RF land (america, whatever). Here in South Africa, they are actually a very safe bet though. I've only ever retuned here once - when I was shooting in a broadcast centre! And even then, I dont think it was the broadcasts, just some freak signal.
 
I have never owned the 100 series but I would estimate they are about equal, except the frequency agile. But you can get two 190's for the price of one 100. That could cover you if you can't use one of the channels and give you extra if the spectrum remains clear. Given you need a minimum of 2 wireless you could probably get 4 190's for less then the 2 grand for 2 100's. I would call it a coin toss depending on your location.

The 190's are like 3 generations out of production but still excellent quality.

Cheers
 
I started that post before your came up so it was not meant as a rebuttal to your points.

But you do make an excellent point with the upgrade path. The 100's will work with the newer series. But if one is seriously thinking of upgrading over time, wireless are, IMHO, something you can never have too many of. Buy the new ones when you can afford it but keep the old as a stand by.

I don't know it really is a coin toss. The 100's are great for the money, definately better then G2, and the frequency agile can be crucial in your neighborhood.

Sorry if that doesn't help
 
No, its all good, you're right - the 190 and 100's sound pretty damn similar to me.

You're also right about always needing more wireless, but I really like it that I have the option of buying a 401 Rx and starting to use it right away with the LM. And then when I have the cash (because -DAMN- things in the 4 series are pricey), I can buy a 4 series tx and reunite the 100 kit. Its just nice that I can stagger my purchases with the 400's if i have the 100's but still benefit..

I will say this though: on this reality show I just came off, we used a mix of Sony UWP-C1 (bad system) and the 100's (good system). BUT in loud crappy environments (of which we did a lot), the margin between these systems gets smaller. The biggest drawback (in my opinion) of the 500dollar range wireless if the noise floor. If I knew I was going to shoot wireless in noisy places, and was looking to save a buck, the G2 would be ok. The lectro's really shine in places with a lower background ambient, where the G2s show their weaknesses.
 
Have you tried to car key test? The G2's I have tried fail this miserably. The compander just crushes the high end transients under stress. In the real world this plays out at a muffled voice effect.

With the 401, be aware they already jacked the price up. I bought one of the first 401 when they came out last Spring and when I went to buy more in June the price had already gone up like $90. It is still worth it but I don't see these things getting cheaper anytime soon. Maybe when the US sells off all it's open RF you will be able to pick up a used one for a song. Bad news for us, good news for you. :)

Cheers
 
So the 100 series would be bad if I was encountering a lot a competing signals... meaning other video guys with other wireless mics... or do you mean just general RF interference... But then can't you just switch to another frequency (in 100 mhz increments) they claim? I'll need this to work well in car dealerships.
 
no, the 190 would be bad in a dense RF field.

the 100 would give you the options to retune...

wabbit, im only planning on getting 401's next year sometime, so maybe the rest of the RF will be sold by then. :) seriously though, it freaks me out; surely lectro and co must have a rabbit in the hat they are waiting to drop? im curious..
 
How can get a receiver with XLR? Which route should I go while still staying under that $1300 range? Maybe pulling different series together?
 
The G2 has a mini to XLR adaptor. I believe it is unbalanced but for a cable run of about a foot this will be fine.

For $1300? One or two wireless? For two your only route is the G2 or older used Lectros like the 190. If you know you are going to be in a high rf environment then I would actually recommend the G2 over the 190 Lectro.

For one, I would suggest raising your budget ever so slightly to get a Lectro 401/LM set. I think you can get that for around $1600, no microphone included.

If you have a solid dollar figure in mind then calling places like Gotham Sound and laying out your budget and job requirements will get you some good solid feedback. They work hard to make get you the best bang for your buck. This does not apply to B&H

Cheers
 
Thanks for the good advice. So the LM over the 100 series? I'm looking for that rich (deep) and warm sound - the freq spec is 90-20,000 on theLM. (not that anyone can tell the difference) I'll shoot for the 401/LM set from Gotham. I was going to go B&H just because. But now I understand that there is life outside. Sveet! (Sveaden Housen)
 
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