wireless microphone

i take the opportunity of a very good price ofrwireless rode II, 245 from warehouse amazon...so i will ty them and if i am not satisfied i just returned and go for other path
 
What mic have you gone for? The Rode one is pretty ordinary - plenty of omnis around. You don't of course need one if the transmitter can be hidden somewhere - but they look pretty stupid clipped to the talent.
 
don't have lav for now, i want to the test the system first, but i would get the rode ones, if i decide to keep with that

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just found the lav for 40 instead 65..so i got it, still from amazon..it is one, i see how it works, and i can also make test with tascam!
 
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lavalier go rode has arrived, the wireless kit not yet. Testing the lavallier, i think it is not too bad, it has the same emphasis on bass like the rode videomic, it seems a typycal rode? I like this emhasis though, and i can stil reduce in post. Lav works fine if connected to tascam dr05 (with power out on) and when connected to my camera fuji XT3, which DON'T have power out and it works. It works also on mic input of my laptop
Connected to dr40 (using both jack and xlr adpater that works ith rode videomic) the mic don't work. Same if i connect mic to my audio card of pc, don't work..


Rode say it needs 2,7V power..
don't understand where is the issue

does mic need power?laptop don t output power, neither fuji..at least i guess
So it is a matter of wiring?
 
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Some devices don't provide power that the mic needs. You've just started down the rabbit hole of lav mics.
 
With an unbalanced mic, and 3 conductors on the 3.5mm connector - your audio may be on the tip, with power on the ring, or power also on the tip and the ring floating, or the ring grounded to the sleeve. One of the weirdnesses of using this connector - nobody agreed a standard. You could knock up a plug to socket adaptor if you can solder - experiment with the wiring till you hit on the combination - then make it permanent in an adaptor. Adaptors are unreliable and often fall out - but tape usually keeps them tame.
 
The things is that fuji don t say it supply power. Also for my knowledge laptop don t sypply power
the question is, this lav need or don t need power??leaving the dr40 and adaptor...with Dr05 works if i enable power, that should br definitive...but what about laptop and camera then??

I tried, anyway, some 'flying' connection using a xlr socket with the lav jack...but seems no results
 
all laptops nowadays have users plugging in headsets, so I'd be 99% certain your has it as a permanent feature. If you are not sure, put a meter on a jack plugged in with the cover off. Dynamic mics don't need power. Condensers, which are the small types we see ALWAYS need power from somewhere.
 
Lav mics in general require bias voltage (aka, plugin power) which is typically 2 to 5 volts. The DR-40 supplies Phantom Power, which is a different animal, so a standard 3.5mm plug to XLR adapter will not work. To use the lav hardwired to the DR-40 (or other XLR input with phantom power) a power converter /XLR adaption is needed. https://www.amazon.com/Rode-Microphones-Mini-Jack-Adapter-Microphone/dp/B08V8HNVC8
Many computers (like smart phones) use a 4 terminal 3.5mm jack which is wired differently than a wireless transmitter (Tx) input (or a recorder with a standard 3.5mm mic input). To use a lav (which are wired for my 100 series Sennheiser Tx) with my iPhone, I needed to make an adapter so the sleeve and ring-2 terminal are connected to tip and sleeve of of the lav's plug.. Laptops and smart phones usually supply bias voltage to power an external mic.
 
That adapter is not a solution, it costs almost like the microphone! I rather add those money and buy a better mic with xlr and phantom..there must be! Or even buy another dr05 and use it for recording with that lav!
For the rest..yes may be computer will supply power, but it is strane that camera does. It is stated "no power out"..Anyway there aren't other answer to the question, must be a power issue!
 
It feels like we’ve had this same conversation on another forum.

You can’t expect to plug a lav mic into any device and expect it to work even if it has the same jack or you used an adapter.

Condenser lav mics require the right amount of voltage, the plug can wired in a non standard way, and the device you’re plugging it needs a proper pre amp. If anyone of these conditions are not met it won’t work.

Lav mics are designed for a specific application: with transmitter, phantom power or even a computer. They are not meant to be swapped with any device you desire .
 
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stefanocps said:
I am looking for a mic to go with dr40 in fact, not any device.i think that was clear enough
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You would buy a lav mic that includes or offers an adapter designed to convert xlr phantom power and I’ve listed options earlier in this thread.
 
Peter C. said:
You would buy a lav mic that includes or offers an adapter designed to convert xlr phantom power and I’ve listed options earlier in this thread.
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yesd i remember, and as i told you i see that the audiotechnica seems not available in europe, while the sony..i found only one selling it at the double of the price..so unfortunately those 2 are not viable option!
 
The XLR Phantom Power adapters are generally expensive and add to the cost of a mic even when it is included.
Some have the option to use a battery instead of Phantom, for instance my Tram TR79 cost $180 (usd) twenty years ago.The TR50 mic alone with a TA5 plug was well over $200 as I recall.
 
Buy a cheap chinese one for £15, is that cheap enough? Wanting something but ignoring the advice seems a strange thing to do - everyone has provided some really great solutions at all sorts of prices. If you have a mic that needs 5V and only have phantom - you really dont have a choice. Something to convert one to the other and then work out the 3.5mm connection, is your only option.

I couldn'y get the link to work on here - but just search aliexpress for this
XLR 3Pin Phantom Power adapter For Sennheiser 3.5mm Jack Lavalier Headset Musical Instrument Microphone for Mixer Job
 
Rode sells VXLR+ $30 on amazon ($9 Adorama). Like Paul said other 3rd party options. On ebay there are many used options whether you buy an adapter or a lav mic that includes the adapter. You'll just have to do your own home work since none of us know price and availability in your location.
 
meanwhile update.just received rode wireless go II and tested it with and without lav attached..both make little difference though.Just connected i have no played with settings so migh do bettr..don't know!
But what a huge difference with tascam+lav! To me is way better the latter..So yes wireless can be very useful, but for quality, no way..wired one !!So now i'll decide if definetely go with 2 lav, tascam and a good deal of cable or stay with wireless for ease use.
Or change it all..get 2 zoom f2, get ride of my 2 tascam and may be is the cleanest solution
 
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I know some of you get fedup with all my searching..but i want to share my test. I have ordered a zoom f2 also..so i could do multiple kind of test.
Recordin zoom f2 with its lav and recording from the internal rode transmitter (also with lav) sounds really the same. Did not do accurate testing but at first hear they are the same. But we know that with zoom i have more processing possiblities.
Te compare zoom /rode connected to camera is different a lot, that's because in this way i need to setup properly all the volume, both in camera an receiver. Without adjusting the audio incamera was not so nice, pleanty of background hiss..proably need to low the input. So i can telle that using rode + camera require time for properly setting up, while zoom does not.

Compare recording from Zoom f2 + its lav and tascam dr05 + zoom lav als is quite differnt. At glance the tascam seems better because have more bass..but actually seems like a resonance in the bvass..thus sounds is not always so clear. Probably can be fixed in post. I did not test the dr40 because i don't see the point of using with a lav, as it is too big to be hanged somehwere to the talent. A dr05 sitll can be done, but the 40 no. Anyway probably there is not much diufference in recording between the 2

So in the end Zoom has lots of pros over the rode. It has normal battery, it has 32float, it is small and can be carried from the talent anywhere, no worry of loosing connection; also is so simple, just start record and nothing else.
On the other hand cannot be monitored, but for the level there is no problem as with 32 bit can be fully processed, and there is no possibilities to have inconvenent
Only downside is that i needs to be synced with video..but i normally do it already
For the same quality, probably the zoom operate flawlessy
The option to record with dr05 is still on the table but do not seems a winner
 
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