Why no Sony HVR-M10E in the US?
- Thread starter hdpro
- Start date
Barry_Green
Moderator
The M10U is offered in the US. I don't think anybody bothers buying it, because it basically is an FX1 without the lens, and an FX1 is about $1000 cheaper plus -- heck, the FX1 would be a great backup camera to have, vs. a deck with no lens.
The M10 doesn't do anything the Z1 doesn't do (i.e., it doesn't take large tapes, it doesn't shuttle tape faster, it doesn't have analog component inputs, etc). An FX1 provides almost all the same functionality, plus more, at less cost.
The M10 doesn't do anything the Z1 doesn't do (i.e., it doesn't take large tapes, it doesn't shuttle tape faster, it doesn't have analog component inputs, etc). An FX1 provides almost all the same functionality, plus more, at less cost.
Barry_Green
Moderator
I was going to recommend the HC1 ($1600 or so street, right?) but I'm not sure it does offer all the functionality of the deck. The deck can downrez 1080i and output it as both 576i and 480i; I don't think an HC1 can do that, can it? Plus there's something about downrezzing HD to 4:3; I think the Z1 can do it to either center-extraction or letterbox, and I think the deck can as well, but I don't know if the HC1 can.
But for 99% of uses, yes, I think the HC1 or FX1 would be a much better buy, by far, than the M10.
But for 99% of uses, yes, I think the HC1 or FX1 would be a much better buy, by far, than the M10.
Well, the FX1 doesn't do center-cutting to 4:3 either, nor does it have NTSC/PAL switching...
But I gotta admit - none of those features seem particularly worthwhile. If SD is your game, why buy an HD camera? (that was rhetorical - I don't need to be educated on the finer reasons) And if you do want SD output and have appropriate HD tools, you'll get better results with software down conversion algorithms than anything the hardware conversions do.
Finally, if you are looking at the deck for SD down-convert options because you don't have the software - realise you could get a computer and all the required software for less.
The only reason I've heard (on other forums) for buying this deck is "to look more professional for clients."
-Spiff
But I gotta admit - none of those features seem particularly worthwhile. If SD is your game, why buy an HD camera? (that was rhetorical - I don't need to be educated on the finer reasons) And if you do want SD output and have appropriate HD tools, you'll get better results with software down conversion algorithms than anything the hardware conversions do.
Finally, if you are looking at the deck for SD down-convert options because you don't have the software - realise you could get a computer and all the required software for less.
The only reason I've heard (on other forums) for buying this deck is "to look more professional for clients."
-Spiff
thisiswells
Retired
oh, ''spiff'', who art thou ?
ChuckS
Veteran
How happy of an FX1 owner are you? I'm off to Hawaii for a family vacation and thinking about getting an FX1 for the trip. How well do you like the FX1 and would you recommend purchasing that over a DVX100a or XL2?Spiff_2 said:
Also, what do you use to edit HDV with?
Thanks :grin:
I'm happy. The initial euphoria has passed... though that comes in waves every time I look at the footage.
I did. When I look at DV footage these days all I can see is the 4:1:1 and sharpening filters. Whether the camera is right for you depends on what your priorities are. The DVX and XL2 do have distinct advantages over the FX1 in some areas - namely true 24p, lattitude, in camera colour control, and gamma curves.
HDV is still bleeding edge in terms of software and hardware, and new updates and tools are coming out every day. It is not as easy to work with as DV, takes much longer to render, and requires much more storage space in order to optimize workflow and quality. Furthermore, all these software tools are pretty expensive. Unless you are willing to carefully re-evaluate and re-define your workflow, buying an HDV camera will be a frustrating experience.
That said - if you are ready to do that - and I was and enjoyed it thoroughly - the improvements in image quality - especially in terms of resolution and colour sampling - will blow you away.
Premiere Pro 1.5.1 and AspectHD 3.2a
-Spiff