Why I MIGHT buy an GV Infinity instead of an HVX200

The deal breaker for me is the Iomega REV recording media. Iomega is not a name to be trusted . I am not comfortable with that. I can barely accept JVC's HD camera, but Iomega ?
 
As for the REV, I don't see that as a major hurdle... besides GV would not put its money on a technology that would cause them trouble in the future. I think Iomega learned its lesson and finally is making reliable mediums to record (or so I hope). According to specs it can sustain 110 Mb/s perfect for HD acquisition and each disk cost about $80 or so which holds about 45 minutes of HD in beautiful JPEG2000 codec at 10 bits 4:2:2 !!! wow!
 
I was looking at Infinity too. No wonder people know little about Thomson - they exist mainly in the pure broadcast world, they are only starting now in the proav domain. The REV will be much more reliable than other Iomega products for a number of technical reasons: it is mainly a common HDD platter WITH the motor inside the cartridge - hence no coupling/decoupling issues. The other major advantage (and I'm not even talking about codecs) is the CF card - if you are keen on solid state why pay a gazilion bucks on P2 when you can get the same capacity/performance from something 5 times cheaper? I wish Thomson brought this out two years ago...
 
But serioulsy.... I wish Panasonic had at least given us the HVX200 with 1/2" CCD even if that had doubled or tripled the price. It would have open a world of possibilities and probably had circunvented a lot of the problems engineers face when trying to cram too many pixels into such a tiny block. (latitude and sensitivity issues and the like)
 
Lucerna said:
But serioulsy.... I wish Panasonic had at least given us the HVX200 with 1/2" CCD even if that had doubled or tripled the price. It would have open a world of possibilities and probably had circunvented a lot of the problems engineers face when trying to cram too many pixels into such a tiny block. (latitude and sensitivity issues and the like)
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If they doubled or tripled the price of the HVX a number of guys like me would still be waiting for an affordable camera solution.

Ofcourse, if I had 20 to 30 G's to spend, I'd consider the Infinity.... but I don't.

I've waited for 20 years for something like the HVX to show up.... don't think I want to wait any longer.
 
I don't really know about this camera, but my friend has ordered three of them. He should receive them in March.

It is good that a lot of cameras are coming out. That will force Manufactures to come up with really good cameras.

I think at this precise moment Panasonic has loads of advantages: 1080p, variable frame rate, DVCPro-50, Mini-DV, all in one.
 
And just to add my two pennies... Thompson Grass Valley are an exceptionally reputable company. We replaced an ageing and troublesome vision mixing desk (made an American company that has now gone bust) with TGV vision mixers at the news studio where I worked - and they are solid, reliable bits of kit.
 
We should ask Jarred to start a GV Infinity section. There are ones for cannon and jvc. Plus the HVX was just as far out from delivery as the GV is now.

I understand the upside of the prosumer slant in a forum like this and not trying to be all things to all people. Folks at our end of the gear budget need a place to discuss, but I think that the idea of 2/3" and disc drives is very exciting as we see those kind of solutions head towards our end of the market.

I am also excited about the idea of panny following suit very soon.

Cheers,
Chris


hey I just noticed the other cameras where put in a sub-folder, I guess maybe the home page was getting a bit long?
 
Wow the GV looks like a REALLY nice camera, a 100% pro setup..i'ts what I want when it supports 24p...so glad to see someone using jpg2000, one of the best compressors in the world, so much better then beefed up dv like dvcproHD...:)


for the people that have NOT seen what jpg2000 is as a codec google it.

mmm...and 10bit!!!

I am REALLY thinking about this camera....

anyone know the chips on it? ccd? cmos? altasense?
 
I wonder what the deal is on the format..does it record avi with a jpg2000 encoder? does it record frames? anyone know?
 
It makes no mention of the chip/chips at all. Or 1080p of any sort. Still, jpg2000 is very cool. 20K plus decent glass...

There you go Obin, and you didn't have to build it yourself. :)

Jim Arthurs
 
wabbit said:
.......... unlike a lot of other people, the form factor of the HVX is crucial to some of our work so we will be getting the HVX and then will consider the Grassvalley as a primary shooter in the future.
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By "form factor" do you mean size/weight as compared to a 2/3" camera? In other respects I'd consider the form factor of the HVX (and the Z1) to be a negative feature - at least for hand held work. "Form factor" is the area I'd say JVC got absolutely dead right with the HD100. Whilst all these 1/3" cameras are obviously smaller and lighter than 2/3", they're still too heavy to hold all out front IMO - likewise it makes them more awkward in confined spaces.
 
harddrive said:
I'd consider the form factor of the HVX (and the Z1) to be a negative feature - at least for hand held work.
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It's hard to discount the creative potential of the flip out screen. (Hi/lo/etc.)
 
Hi,
GVG (Philips in origin) have a very good product with Mpeg2000 codec, but haven't a small Camcorder!
Sony XDcam HD is same HDV ... low quality of Mpeg compression with GOP Frame of 15 Frame.... but your budget is only with 4 letters is OK!
Marcello
 
thisiswells said:
It's hard to discount the creative potential of the flip out screen. (Hi/lo/etc.)
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Sometimes that's true - and applies equally to all the 1/3" cameras. But for extended hand holding I don't think the "all out in front" styling (form factor) of the HVX and Z1 is anywhere close to the HD100. If most of your work is on a tripod I doubt it's that important, if you have to handhold a lot then congratulations to JVC for at least getting that right.
 
harddrive said:
for extended hand holding I don't think the "all out in front" styling (form factor) of the HVX and Z1 is anywhere close to the HD100
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Yah, I concede. But, I wish to add the following:

It is simple to make a handheld camera shoulder-mounted.
It is very complicated to add a monitor to a shoulder mount camera.
 
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