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malibudutchie said:
Haha yes, purposely pointed the camera at the sun to get a flare - number one priority. So now 7years later we say it's not fashionable. Lens flare is not in every shot, shallow DOF is not in every shot. You know what does work, well composed, well thought out stuff, shot well. So what current techniques do we see as being purposely cinematic yet contemporary....maybe zooming in and out with a pro-mist might be on the comeback trail.....
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Don't know about 'pro-mist' (for those who know German... there is a joke...), but I did notice in "Good Day to Die Hard"(2013)... watched it on father's day... there were quite a few 'old school' zooms with slight pans... I'm thinking... did someone just 'channel' some long dead 70's cinematographer or what...
 
Personally I see nothing wrong with a little constructive critique. You cannot have art without critique. Just because one person likes a specific style doesn't mean everybody has to.

The problem I see all too often is nobody likes critique anymore. I see it with my graphic design students as well. They want to create but never want to talk about what they made or hear the opinion of others. When they do hear it they get upset as if they are personally being insulted. This is not the case and eventually all of my students learn it is very healthy to debate style and technique and learn from each other. Isn't that part of the point of these forums? For people to have an open discussion about styles and methods of creating art? It can't always be just about which lens to buy.

Yeah sometimes the discussions may get a bit heated but as long as people are not directly insulting each other I say we welcome passionate discussions instead of cookie cut out responses. That is how the brain juices get flowing and even if somebody never posts they may get a lot out of the discussion.

So I say keep it civil but keep the debate going.
 
Thanks Thomas, that's the point of this thread. Yes, we can agree and disagree without feeling offended or muzzled about an opinion. The thing is fads are fashionable at the time and it's easy to be critical in hindsight. My favourite cinematic "moments" are scattered in movies like "Knife on the water", "Paris Texas", Koyanasquatsi, and even Attenborough's documentaries have some amazing footage. What I especially like is that a camera like the GH3 and a tech savvy user can replicate or create any cinematic moment or scene at the highest quality. Fast primes, clean high ISO's and good peripheral equipment have made it all accessible to us without having a Panavision, grip truck and a crew of a 100. So, when we see a clip like JFR posted and can see nothing but unfashionable lens flare (the guy is shooting into the sun) and shallow DOF and be critical of it - well, it shows how far some of us have progressed. By the way, my comment about promists and zooming coming back in fashion were tongue in cheek - hopefully they have been filed into a "not be used ever again" bin.
 
Thomas Smet said:
They want to create but never want to talk about what they made or hear the opinion of others. When they do hear it they get upset as if they are personally being insulted.
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And sometimes the critics themselves can't distinguish dialogue from "being insulted". I had a long conversation with a friend about a certain script I made and he took all of my defending of the quality of the script as being "insulted". Which I really was not, I just saw the whole thing completely differently.
 
maarek said:
And sometimes the critics themselves can't distinguish dialogue from "being insulted". I had a long conversation with a friend about a certain script I made and he took all of my defending of the quality of the script as being "insulted". Which I really was not, I just saw the whole thing completely differently.
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Yes it goes both ways. Part of the job of an artist is to passionately defend their style and decisions. Some of my favorite moments teaching are when one of my students can argue with me and make their case about their project. That to me means just as much as their raw talent. I see too many artists with amazing raw talent not stand up for their work and get left behind.
 
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