Which OKTAVA should I get? Look at my list.

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Saiaf

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I don't understand the cardiod and the hymonoid crap, but I know oktava is great. I hear so much praise about it, so if someone would just go ahead and tell me what would go good with my new dvx100b that'd be much appreciated. I'm not one of those guys who just comes ignorantly asking what to buy, I'm asking WHICH to buy. I'm the type who does research and buys quickly, but now I'm confused. I usually buy much quicker than this, but now I just don't get the difference between the 3 or 4 of these OKTAVA's on this list. What's the best deal? And what's the SECOND best deal on this link? Thank you in advance.

http://sound-room.com/customer/home.php?cat=2
 
the difference between cardioid and hyper is not "crap" dude... do some more research, they are majorly different tools.
 
Thanks, I read the whole article. Audio is now obviously more important than video. Btw, the hymonoid thing was a joke. Now the thing is I read about the Sennheiser K6 and it seems to be a great mic, but he didn't compare it to the OKTAVA. I'm stuck between those two.
 
My bad, that article is about 5 years old and the tide has turned on the K6. When cameras like the XL1s were popular the K6 was one of a few select choices since these cameras did not have phantom power and the K6 was one of the few that could be battery powered. Early DV camera adoptors liked the idea of camera mounting it and calling audio done.

The other thing that made the K6 a bargin was it's modularity but I have yet to meet one person who has more then one mic head for it so that becomes a moot point.

Ignore any praise given to K6 family, it's value is not accurate today.

Remember you need at least 2 mics, one for outdoors and one for indoors. The Oktava is not a one size fits all mic, it is simple a decent cheap indoor mic.

Cheers
 
Saiaf said:
Thanks, I read the whole article. Audio is now obviously more important than video. Btw, the hymonoid thing was a joke. Now the thing is I read about the Sennheiser K6 and it seems to be a great mic, but he didn't compare it to the OKTAVA. I'm stuck between those two.
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Here's some more for you.

http://home.comcast.net/~tyreeford/AudioBootcamp.html

Regards,

Ty Ford

PS If you can afford more, don't buy the Oktava.
 
Charli said:
I bought the bello nero.
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Got yours yet? I ordered one last week. I already have two hypers, but from the comparisons on this and other sites decided to get this cheap little beauty. Im hoping
when I get it that I can reproduce same quality. Of course tests are done on different mixers etc.
 
Thanks a lot guys, yeah I read about the K6 and what not. I found articles about how it doesn't work with the dvx100b and what not, so should I go ahead for that OKTAVA as an indoors mic? (the $299 bello nero one?) I mean now that you guys kind of understand my situtation, isn't it a great deal? Are there little adapters you attach to the oktava so that it may be used indoor and outdoor? Tell me what to buy and I'll buy it, I've got $600. I just have to begin filming my show soon thats why I'm trying to get a quick hint of what to buy.
 
ok, cool, sorry missed the joke there. My bad..

But your last post also worries me a touch... an adaptor to make it work outside or inside? Im not sure I understand you, and Im not sure you understand the mic?

Sorry if Im insulting you, Im just not sure what ya mean.
 
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Good it's good to see someone else on here almost as confused as I am. I'm also a "newbie" and was where u are about a week ago - seems like ages.

To be really quick - and this is all a third hand culling of what I've gleaned so far . .

1. The Octava is a really good sounding indoor mic - equals many much pricier mics - with a dark side. It's very, very "noisy". Really good shock mounting and protection from any and all stray air currents is crucial (even inside) - a rock steady boom pole operator also helps - bumping and waving it around is the kiss of death. If you can accommodate this it's the absolute hands down value winner for sound.

2. Understand that for any decent mic the "accessory pack" (shock mounting, wind protection, boom pole, cables, headphones) can greatly exceed the cost of the mic - and thats before we even consider the nice to haves like mixers and recorders.

The links in the 'sticky threads" at the top of the forum do a great job of laying out a wealth of knowledge - just be conscious of the time line - recommendations change as technology advances.

Good luck!
 
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Hey tim, no worries, but what I meant was "Is there something you can attach to the mic that makes shooting outside maybe less sensitive, etc. An accessory or something." I do understand that that kind of stuff doesn't really work for such mics, but I'm just curious if such a thing existed. And yes, "pixelated" i'm surely a newbie in the audio department, this is the area I know least about. Thanks a lot for the advice. I might go ahead and get the OKTAVA one that HORSE FILMS gave a link to. I'm going to buy it soon. Now, i'm going to read around for some good priced, good quality outdoor ones. I appreciate this a lot guys, patience is great here.
 
ok, i get what you mean now.

let me just correct something pixelated said: the oktava isnt "noisy", it would be described as "sensitive to handling/wind noise" - noisy usually refers to signal to the volume of the noise floor of a mic, and the oktava isnt a noisy mic at all.

saiaf, the hyper cap is suited to indoor work, but can perform very well outside. it has some down sides that are the reason why shotguns are usually preferred outdoors: 1) you have to be a lot closer for good pickup, and outdoor shots are typically wider and 2) hypers are less directional, which can sometimes be a problem in locations where you dont have as much control, which again is typically an outdoor location.


to be able to have the option of using the oktava outside, you NEED wind protection (say, Rycote BBG), and good shockmounting. Indoors, some people dont use as extreme an approach to wind control as the BBG (Im one of them), but others do - its a subjective personal thing.
 
Ahhh, perfect, great info. So that's it, should I go ahead and buy the one horse films gave a link to? Or should I go for that Oktava BLACK NERO set? Will I find myself using them as much? Horse films suggested the one that costs $173 and the black nero set costs $299.
 
i bought a single bella nero with only the hypercardioid cap, which I am very happy with. I would actually like another Oktava though, so maybe buying two would have been smarter of me. Ive never found Ive needed the other caps, but thats just me.

its up to you man...
 
Saiaf said:
Hey tim, no worries, but what I meant was "Is there something you can attach to the mic that makes shooting outside maybe less sensitive, etc. An accessory or something." I do understand that that kind of stuff doesn't really work for such mics, but I'm just curious if such a thing existed. And yes, "pixelated" i'm surely a newbie in the audio department, this is the area I know least about. Thanks a lot for the advice. I might go ahead and get the OKTAVA one that HORSE FILMS gave a link to. I'm going to buy it soon. Now, i'm going to read around for some good priced, good quality outdoor ones. I appreciate this a lot guys, patience is great here.
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Yes such things do exist and they work. Rycote and K-tek make them. I do location audio for a living. If I didn't have these tools, I'd be out of work.

Regards,

Ty Ford
 
bello nero $173 but type "dv" in the code and get this microphone for $165.

Ncj - I bought my Oktava a very long time ago, plus I bought the bbg & windjammer.
 
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