He leveraged his companies more then once to finance his dreams.
I'm not advocating doing it, a lot of factors go into taking such a chance and I would assume most fail but every once in a while it succeeds.
What would you do?
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He leveraged his companies more then once to finance his dreams.
I'm not advocating doing it, a lot of factors go into taking such a chance and I would assume most fail but every once in a while it succeeds.
John Caballero
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There are quite a few theatrical releases out there to prove that the HVX is reliable enough. Look at all the stuff shot from members of this forum for various festivals, it is excellent. I kept up with Mr. Caffesse’s report about creating his piece recently and the end results looked fantastic. Then take a good look at Mr. Barry Green’s A Little Mouth to Feed, I believe is the title, and see what this camera can do for the genre you are shooting for.
In a few years people won’t even remember, let alone care, how real film looked like. You have to continue to be part of the digital cinema revolution!
In a few years people won’t even remember, let alone care, how real film looked like. You have to continue to be part of the digital cinema revolution!
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Phil Maker
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Just as I suspected -- this was the wrong forum to ask whether to go digital or film. Everyone here has been convincing themselves the HVX is as good as film since it came out... I love my HVX, and I'm on the front lines of the digital revolution, but I see an opportunity to shoot film and relatively inexpensively. Everything in me is telling me to go for it. I don't think I'll sell my HVX to do it though. I'll try to get some financing. Ten to twelve grand should do it.
Well if everything is telling you to go for it, then do it.
Personally I wouldn't care less what a bunch of people thought I should do if "everything" was telling me to go for it. If I was that sure of it I wouldn't even offer up the question.
You're asking a bunch of people you don't know and who've probably never seen your work much less your script their opinion about something that's actually a very "creative" perspective thing. You're on the HVX forum, if you didn't know the opinions would be slanted then you've probably got a lot more things to worry about then what format to shoot your project on....
Best of luck to you whatever you choose.
hmmm, which people are those?
Luis Caffesse
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I don't think anyone is saying that.
My point was that I don't believe the difference is great enough to warrant the difference in budget it would require for you.
Would it look better in S16?
Of course.
Would it matter to a distributor or an audience that it was shot in S16?
I don't think so, not at all.
So don't misread what I'm saying here - I'm not "convincing myself the HVX is as good as film" -
but I'm also not convinced that the format is going to make the film any better at the end of the day.
Just my 2 cents.
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That said - yeah, you may be right - this probably isn't the most unbiased place to ask that question.
TedRR
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Let me get off the Film/HVX issue since this isn't your biggest problem. IMHO.
I hear all kinds of great stories shot perfectly, directed perfectly and scored perfectly that lose lots of money. I think the ratio is 99% of them never go farther then a film festival and more likely on your shelf as a great memory of yoru talents.
My DP has done a great job with his and has made a few festivals including Teluride. I think he is at well over $100,000 just to get it this far.
I'm not saying you shouldn't put your arse on the line or your friends and take chances. But to sell what can make you money today on this dream of yours is as risky as you can get.
Go slow, make good choices and I wish you luck!
I hear all kinds of great stories shot perfectly, directed perfectly and scored perfectly that lose lots of money. I think the ratio is 99% of them never go farther then a film festival and more likely on your shelf as a great memory of yoru talents.
My DP has done a great job with his and has made a few festivals including Teluride. I think he is at well over $100,000 just to get it this far.
I'm not saying you shouldn't put your arse on the line or your friends and take chances. But to sell what can make you money today on this dream of yours is as risky as you can get.
Go slow, make good choices and I wish you luck!
Phil Maker
Well-known member
Thanks for all the comments. I'm polling this forum to spark ideas and different perspectives. Just because everything in ME is telling me to go S16, doesn't mean I ought not to seek out other peoples opinions and viewpoints. I like to make an informed decision on things of this magnitude. Because once I decide, I know myself -- there's no turning back. I do think shooting on film will give me a slight edge over other festival bound films, in that, when you're watching film, never mind story, the image itself is powerful enough to draw you in. Yes you need a great story, acting, directing and editing, but how do you draw them in before those other elements have a chance to develop?
John Caballero
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The most important PEOPLE, the ones that put money in your pocket if your work is good enough, moviegoers. :shocked:
TedRR
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That's where you'll spend even more money. Getting them in the seat so they can appreciate "the look".
Unfortunately, the biggest trick is promotion, exposure and networking. Creativity helps, but money gets you farther.I constantly have clients telling me how much I can make if I had this or that tool. I tell them to cover rental fees for a few projects and if it really helps us make money, I'll buy the tool.
Why not rent a film cam for this one project? I hate to see you sell all your gear.
Don't get me wrong, I just invested over $20,000.00 last week in new equipment. But it's for gear that has already sparked enough interest, that I don't know if I can keep up with the demand.
Rarely does one big project mean long term success.
I wish you luck.
John Caballero
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At the end of the day your decision is the one that counts. Good or bad you have to live with it. The thing is that you have so much invested in your fabulous equipment and now you want to switch to S16? Many people around the world would feel blessed with a third of that investment and probably produce great results with it too. That’s just my opinion