what to pair with the new 1dxm3? for b/c cams

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Silenkiller

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So trying to figure out what my full frame options are to pair with this thing but everything seems like a total joke. Eos-R has a nuts crop factor, the rp is still at a 1.5 crop. ur telling me there are no other good full frame options? do I need to buy used 1dx mk2's lol
 
Silenkiller said:
So trying to figure out what my full frame options are to pair with this thing but everything seems like a total joke. Eos-R has a nuts crop factor, the rp is still at a 1.5 crop. ur telling me there are no other good full frame options? do I need to buy used 1dx mk2's lol
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I'm honestly struggling to see what your actual question is here. Are you looking for an additional camera?

Are you looking for another camera to 'pair' with the 1Dx mkIII, but you DON'T want another mkIII?

Good full frame video is the territory of high end cinema cameras. Is it your expectation that there ought to be several good options out there, apart from the mkIII? And if you don't want another mkIII (best match obviously), is it due to price? If so, is it your expectation that other options that "ought to exist" should also be significantly cheaper?

You do mention other, non FF (in terms of video) cameras. Since 'full frame' doesn't have its own look per se (can be matched over a pretty large range of focal lengths), are you open to crop cameras? Another Canon that shoots Canon Log would be the closest.

For a multi camera setup, you might not opt to shoot with the same framing anyway, so format might not be critical. Better to aim for consistent color?
 
AndreeOnline said:
This post came in as I was writing my other reply. Now I understand better and can safely: LOL.

*tounge in cheek, no offence*
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considering sony has been offering a full frame option with all the bells and whistles for how many years now, you can understand why im surprised there is no sub 2k dollar full frame 24p option from canon lmfao what a joke..
 
Yeah, I don't think Canon has what you're looking for. You either need to wait for new releases or accept a crop factor for your B cameras, which is probably the way to go if you need them right now.
 
Sony still doesn't offer 10-bit 4:2:2 in their FF DSLMs, which is why I have a Panasonic S1 until and unless Sony does.
 
ahalpert said:
Sony still doesn't offer 10-bit 4:2:2 in their FF DSLMs, which is why I have a Panasonic S1 until and unless Sony does.
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i can live without 10bit, im really trying to be here for two reasons, 1. canon skin tones so i can CC a bit less in my workflow and the 1dxmk3's 4k 60p on full frame.
def didnt realize canon was that tight on their options, explains why they are losing so much sales last few years. silly canon
 
1DX Mark II's 4K is cropped too (1.3x-ish) and has no C-Log, EOS R is the only one that offers 10-bit (externally), and the RP doesn't have 4K DPAF (if it matters) or C-Log.

With that said, it really depends on your work, but crop factor is probably the last thing to consider since you can control it pretty well with available lenses (unless you're planning on shooting everything completely shallow in which it would be more difficult but still doable).

M6 Mark II has 4K DPAF but no 24p until a firmware upgrade this year. You can put a Speed Booster on it to get close to FF, but there's no C-Log. Nice images though. And great on a gimbal.
 
NorBro said:
1DX Mark II's 4K is cropped too (1.3x-ish), EOS R is the only one that offers 10-bit (externally), and the RP doesn't have 4K DPAF (if it matters).

With that said, it really depends on your work, but crop factor is probably the last thing to consider since you can control it pretty well with available lenses (unless you're planning on shooting everything completely shallow in which it would be more difficult but still doable).

M6 Mark II has 4K DPAF but no 24p until a firmware upgrade. Can put a Speed Booster on it to get close to FF, but there's no LOG.
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ahh thank you for all this info. appreciate it! yeah its def a little trickier than i expected. ill look into that m6 ive never heard of it.
 
A lot of people write stuff, but most wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

It's best to test it yourself if you're around any camera stores.
 
That could be, but the HD on my 5Dmk3 is radically softer than the HD on my OG C300. Of course, there are massive differences in the image pipeline, but that's the point.
 
Canon is infamous for crippling their HD in the DSLRs for the last decade. It's beyond bad.

The modern day 4K cameras and their 4K is much better. Of course you'd expect the 1DX Mark III's 4K to be better (and it will be), but it's not an apples-to-apples comparison to and with how the HD has been handled by the corporation.

Even if it's a 3K-ish image (according to the article), it's highly superior - visually - to any "1080p" HD from Canon.

Truth is: No one knows exactly what any of these engineers are doing besides a handful of people.

We can only trust them, and use and look, and like and dislike.
 
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You are probably right. And at the end of the day, it comes down to what you need: if the detail level is enough for you in their 4K implementation, and if you simply need to be able to tell your client that you're delivering "4K"...
 
If your clients are asking you what you're delivering, you're probably not going to be using that camera anyway, haha.
 
Come now, there are plenty of clients who know nothing about cameras but still ask for "4K" or "HD" and wouldn't turn away a DSLR. But I see your point.
 
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