FS7: What is your best lens with your FS7

Hi
Tokina 11-20 2,8 is available.
Does anybody have experience with this lense (canon EF mount) on FS7.


As for my understanding Tokina 11-20 2,8 as of the crop factor 1,4 will become
if i use a commlite - 15-28 mm
if i use a metabones speedbooster ultra - 11-20 + 1 extra stop

Which funktions will work with commlite or sb ultra ?

Thanks for your help
klfi
 
Erik Wittbusch said:
It does indeed make a difference.
It was last year, when I realized, that my speedbooster+Canon 24-105 combo is extremely prone to flares.
I then checked my recordings (with FS100) and recognized this behaviour when light sources are in the frame, too.
I checked the same lens without the spedbooster and had a little better contrast, better flare resistance and nicer bokeh, too.

That was, when I switched over to the Canon 17-55/2,8 IS on a standard metabones adapter. Happy since then.
This lens is much underrated, as the red L-series line is missing. The only shortcoming is the position of the focus ring,
which is close to the camera and it's function as a dustsucker...
When we get center-crop mode one day, this will be the perfect lens: 17-110/2,8 with IS and mechanical focus!
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Erik, it's a great piece of glass but a poorly constructed lens. I've had two in the past two years both fail on me, when you're shooting run and gun docs they just can't handle the pace it seems. I agree the glass is great and I think if you are using it under controlled environments then all good but on world tours with bands, not so reliable. Interesting to know about your experiences with the SB and 24-105 though, thanks for that info, haven't noticed it yet to be honest , maybe just not been looking for it.
 
My 24-105 fell apart after a few years of use.

But ive been suprised how ok the new ones feel

Id aim to trade it out every 24months

S
 
morgan_moore said:
My 24-105 fell apart after a few years of use.

But ive been suprised how ok the new ones feel

Id aim to trade it out every 24months

S
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We all pull from our own experiences, i've got L series lenses i've had for over 5 years and they still look and feel brand new. They are so well made in my opinion. Of course, one breaks and they are all instantly rubbish haha. Anyway (knocks on wood). I'd like to try the Tamron 24-70 as it has IS and would be an f/2 on the booster, from what i've heard & seen it looks like a great lens, but at the moment happy with my 24-105 as my main 'utility' workhorse.
 
With Canon IS lenses you have to take care of the IS. On a Canon EOS camera the IS is parked when the camera is shut off but when you hot swap lenses the IS is on. This goes for all Canon IS lenses. If the lens moves to much with the IS unparked it might get damaged. Best is to turn IS of before you swap lens. You can easily hear if the IS is unparked if you gently shake the lens and you hear a rattle sound. It sounds like something is loose inside.
 
I think the huge extension of the 24-105 makes it intrinsically weak. It gets floppy.

Also as Ossy says IS is weak.

Really I dont like any lenses that extend.

16-35L et al seem to last.

But non last like the nikkors I bought 18 years ago!

S
 
klfi said:
Hi
Tokina 11-20 2,8 is available.
Does anybody have experience with this lense (canon EF mount) on FS7.


As for my understanding Tokina 11-20 2,8 as of the crop factor 1,4 will become
if i use a commlite - 15-28 mm
if i use a metabones speedbooster ultra - 11-20 + 1 extra stop

Which funktions will work with commlite or sb ultra ?

Thanks for your help
klfi
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Clear something up from me : isn't the Tokina 11-20 an APS-C sensor size lens ? You know, like the 11-16 was before it. So you can't use a Speedbooster with it.
 
I use the Tokina 11-16 on a speedbooster but just between 15-16. So I suppose the new tokina could be use between 15-20 with the speedbooster.

I'm interested in the metabones standard for that reason, to use my tokina entirely and to have a crop-factor on my lenses to increase the focal.
 
Nice scenery !

To be honest, I never was really impressed by the image quality of the Tokina 11-16 but I do use it from time to time when the ultra wide angle is needed.

Speaking about UWA zooms, I need to get my hands on the new Tamron 15-30 2.8 SP... with a Speedbooster it must be quite awesome.
 
I agree with you, the image quality of the Tokina 11-16 is not so amazing on the speedbooster but the angle is so wide. May be with the standard adapter it would be better.

I'm curious to test the 14-24mm 2.8 from Nikon on the FS7 to see if it works well.

I think my Tamron 24-70 2.8 is better than the Tokina in term of sharpness but I'm a little disappointed, I hoped it was better.

And my Nikon 70-200 2.8, is really very impressive with the FS7.
 
Sony 18-105 f/4 PZ OSS -- zoom control on camera?

Sony 18-105 f/4 PZ OSS -- zoom control on camera?

Hello,

I'm a long-time lurker who has found this forum extremely valuable for learning over the past few years, first about the Panasonic AF100, then GH2, BMPC, and more recently the Sony FS7. This is my second attempt at what is probably my first post -- my first attempt seems not to have "stuck."

I would like to know if the Sony 18-105 f/4 PZ lens can be controlled from the camera, including the power zoom. Is the zoom assignable / controllable from the handgrip? I am planning to purchase an FS7 and a collection of lenses very soon, and, in my scheme, the 18-105 is to play the role of run 'n' gun zoom for outdoor daytime events. I see the zoom lever on the side of the lens, but it SHOULD be something I can control on camera.

Thanks everyone for your help. I plan to post my list of lenses for your review / comments / advice shortly.

Screenstoryteller
 
I plan on using my FS7 with an ultra speedbooster and the following lenses but I have a feeling the Tamront 24-70 and Canon 70-200 will be the main lenses used:

Canon 16-35 2.8 II
Sigma 35mm 1.4 art
Sigma 50mm 1.4 Art
Tamron 24-70 2.8 with VC
Canon 135 f2
canon 70-200 F2.8 II
 
Screenstoryteller said:
I would like to know if the Sony 18-105 f/4 PZ lens can be controlled from the camera, including the power zoom.
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Yes, the zoom can be controlled by the grip rocker - as can iris by the dial, although that's hit and miss and very laggy when it does work. It's fine with the body iris dial, though.

Ben.
 
Help me spend $15,000 wisely on FS7 and lenses

Help me spend $15,000 wisely on FS7 and lenses

Hello again,

I am submitting my order soon, so I would appreciate your informed opinions.

I have a budget of $15K for camera and lenses to use in documentary production and event coverage for a small university. After buying the FS7, a second battery and two 64GB Lexar cards, I have about $5800 for lenses, filters, and cases. I have the following lenses in mind, and I would really appreciate this group's feedback on this lens set for interviews, b-roll, and some event coverage:
Sony 18-105 f/4 (E PZ G OSS)

Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 IS USM

Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8, EF mount


Sony 35mm f/1.8 prime

Tamron AF 90mm f/2.8 Di SP A/M 1:1 macro

Metabones Speedbooster ULTRA

Commlite Lens Adapter​

Pre-educational discount, but post-tax, I have about $425 left, and still need to budget for cases and UV / haze filters for each lens to protect the front elements.

Here are my questions:


1) I have three zooms in this list, which unfortunately doesn’t leave a lot of budget for primes. The Sony 18-105 f/4 PZ is meant to be my run ‘n’ gun workhorse for daytime outdoor events, also allowing me to zoom while rolling if need be (not my favorite style of shooting, but I expect to need to be able to do it). The other two zooms strike me as good choices that let me compose quickly and flexibly in scenarios where I don’t have total control of the action, while being of high quality, from what I’ve read and seen. My question is this: Is this trio of zoom lenses redundant? If so, which one should I *not* get, and what would you replace it with?

2) More simply put: What prime(s) would you add to this list?


3) Macro newbie: I think having the ability to shoot macro CUs will be very useful for telling some of our stories, so I managed to fit that Tamron 90mm f/2.8 macro lens into this budget. However, I have questions on this:
a. In reviews of macro lenses, often users will say they also use them for portraits (still photography, presumably). Does it make optical sense to use a 90mm macro lens on a Super35 sensor to shoot an interview or b-roll of a person?

b. Do I need to buy a lens that’s designed/designated as “macro” to shoot macro closeups, or would, say, a manual 85mm work equally well? Sorry for my ignorance…I haven’t used a macro lens since my childhood experiments in Super 8.

c. Can someone suggest a good reference source about macro videography (e.g. an online forum, specific practitioners on Vimeo or YouTube, etc.) so I can educate myself in this sub-specialty? (I do know how to use Google, but I thought you may have good recommendations.)​

Just FYI, my professional background is ~ 15 years as an editor / asst. editor in Los Angeles (docs for HBO, BBC, PBS; network reality; network and cable scripted series; studio & small prod. co. feature films); 3 years as producer/shooter/editor at regional TV station; and now I work at a small college. Having spent some time in “Hollywood,” I think it’s wonderful how much good work is being done by individuals and micro-sized production companies all around the world with affordable equipment packages and internet distribution, and I am glad about the communities that exist to support small producers. The FS7 seems like the camera I’ve been waiting for to use to tell stories in service of the university where I work.

Thank you all very much for sharing your experience and knowledge.

Screenstoryteller
 
I'll take a stab at a few of your items...

You realistically cannot zoom while rolling with the Sony zoom. Just my opinion of course and it has been discussed vigorously on the board. That includes both the 18-105 as well as the 28-135 kit lens (which I bought).

Not certain about UHD/4K with the Lexar cards as honestly I haven't tested them. Definitely would not shoot the 18-105 at UHD/4K. I should have one of those to test shortly as it is supposedly on the way from Sony. A decent run and gun lens for HD but certainly not for zooming on the run.

That Canon 70-200 f/2.8 is a pretty heavy lens and I would think it prudent to use rods and support.

I just kind of think that lens package is all over the place and in mixing/matching lenses on a single project, your results may not be consistent.

Who are you working with in configuring your package and what is your dealer's recommendation within the confines of your budget?

When I think of "macro" I tend to think of close still photography of objects or creatures. If you're thinking in terms of interview focal length, 85mm to maybe 100mm is an acceptable range.

Here's another idea-- Sony 18-105 as HD run and gun lens and a set of Rokinon E mount primes. Rokinon isn't the favorite of the purists but I know you will find a number of people on this board who speak favorably of them. The Zeiss Loxia and Tuit emount lenses are pricier but would deliver better glass.

Wait for your free Metabones IV from Sony and perhaps fill in with some nice used EF glass. I have both the Metabones IV and a Commlite. Those adapters are finicky and I would so much prefer to stay with native mount if at all possible.

But, as I said, your best guidance comes from a dealer whom you trust to understand your work and make recommendations in your best interest. And I hope you don't respond that you're about to order from a box house. I think that is a major mistake in configuring systems, particularly when you are new, have questions or otherwise need a sounding board for your ideas.

Ned Soltz
 
@Screenstoryteller, I've been using the Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 without rod support for six months, no issues. That said, I'd recommend buying the Tamron or Sigma 70-200mm as you'er on a tight budget. As for the rest, I agree with Ned.
 
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