WHAT HAPPENED HERE??????.
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED HERE??????.
I combined the two
so some things that got moved from Articles got dumped ontop of some things.
I combined the two
so some things that got moved from Articles got dumped ontop of some things.
J.R. Hudson
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED HERE??????.
I'd combine CINEMATOGRAPHY and LIGHTING too! It's not like they are related or anything!
I mean, doesnt the DP deal with the LIGHTING as well ?
I'd combine CINEMATOGRAPHY and LIGHTING too! It's not like they are related or anything!
I mean, doesnt the DP deal with the LIGHTING as well ?
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: WHAT HAPPENED HERE??????.
It's cool Esse!
Just a thought.
It's cool Esse!
Just a thought.
Barry_Green
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED HERE??????.
[quote author=John Hudson link=board=nws;num=1077757616;start=0#2 date=02/25/04 at 18:29:25]
I mean, doesnt the DP deal with the LIGHTING as well ?[/quote]
Depends on the budget. On a "proper" film, no, the DP doesn't really deal with lighting, any more than he does with operating the camera. The DP is head of the department, and technically supervises the gaffer/electrical department. But the gaffer is the guy or gal who's actually doing the lighting. The DP will tell the gaffer what she/he wants, and the gaffer goes and does it. On big movies, the DP may never even look through the lens -- that's what the camera operator is for.
Of course, this last weekend I did a spot for our Women In Film chapter, where I was Line Producer, DP, Gaffer, Key Grip, Boom Op, Sound Mixer, Camera Operator, P.A., Swing Crew, and -- oh, probably a few other jobs. So, like I said, it all depends on the budget! ;D
[quote author=John Hudson link=board=nws;num=1077757616;start=0#2 date=02/25/04 at 18:29:25]
I mean, doesnt the DP deal with the LIGHTING as well ?
[/quote]Depends on the budget. On a "proper" film, no, the DP doesn't really deal with lighting, any more than he does with operating the camera. The DP is head of the department, and technically supervises the gaffer/electrical department. But the gaffer is the guy or gal who's actually doing the lighting. The DP will tell the gaffer what she/he wants, and the gaffer goes and does it. On big movies, the DP may never even look through the lens -- that's what the camera operator is for.
Of course, this last weekend I did a spot for our Women In Film chapter, where I was Line Producer, DP, Gaffer, Key Grip, Boom Op, Sound Mixer, Camera Operator, P.A., Swing Crew, and -- oh, probably a few other jobs. So, like I said, it all depends on the budget! ;D
Mike_Donis
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED HERE??????.
The gaffer may rig the stuff.....but if the DP is the one telling him what to do, then doesn't that make him creatively in charge? Any gaffers could go to the "technical" section of the forum, but i'd say that the DP would be interested in the lighting aspects, from the artistic points of view.
I could just be wrong on my terminology though, correct me if I am!
The gaffer may rig the stuff.....but if the DP is the one telling him what to do, then doesn't that make him creatively in charge? Any gaffers could go to the "technical" section of the forum, but i'd say that the DP would be interested in the lighting aspects, from the artistic points of view.
I could just be wrong on my terminology though, correct me if I am!
Re: WHAT HAPPENED HERE??????.
Is there still such a thing as a lighting director, or has that role been combined with the role of DP? Also, back to the original topic of this post, Can we get this section organized by date of post? If it already is, were there posts that were lost when the two were combined?
Is there still such a thing as a lighting director, or has that role been combined with the role of DP? Also, back to the original topic of this post, Can we get this section organized by date of post? If it already is, were there posts that were lost when the two were combined?
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: WHAT HAPPENED HERE??????.
Thats what I meant!
Director and DP directs the gaffers/grips/pa's (depends on size of film of course) on where the lighting should be. I dont think there is a Director of Lighting; I think its DP.
Thats what I meant!
Director and DP directs the gaffers/grips/pa's (depends on size of film of course) on where the lighting should be. I dont think there is a Director of Lighting; I think its DP.
Barry_Green
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED HERE??????.
Different DP's work with their gaffers in different ways. Some DP's are very hands-on, some are quite hands-off. The DP is in charge of the electrical and grip departments, so yes, ultimately all responsibility lies with the DP. But it's certainly not unheard of for a DP to relate to the gaffer by saying "lots of soft light, and punch up the subject a little" and the gaffer then goes and does it all. The gaffer is responsible for rigging the lights, but that's kind of the bare minimum requirement -- many gaffers do much more, and many DP's are pleased to let them.
The DP is ultimately responsible for every element of how a shot is photographed, that's true. But sometimes they may fulfill that responsibility by hiring a dynamite gaffer and letting them "do their thing". Which may earn that gaffer the title of "lighting director", perhaps.
Different DP's work with their gaffers in different ways. Some DP's are very hands-on, some are quite hands-off. The DP is in charge of the electrical and grip departments, so yes, ultimately all responsibility lies with the DP. But it's certainly not unheard of for a DP to relate to the gaffer by saying "lots of soft light, and punch up the subject a little" and the gaffer then goes and does it all. The gaffer is responsible for rigging the lights, but that's kind of the bare minimum requirement -- many gaffers do much more, and many DP's are pleased to let them.
The DP is ultimately responsible for every element of how a shot is photographed, that's true. But sometimes they may fulfill that responsibility by hiring a dynamite gaffer and letting them "do their thing". Which may earn that gaffer the title of "lighting director", perhaps.
