Weird Shadow Edges around Eyes...

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Matthew Benjamin Canada

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I'm getting some weird hard shadow edge circles around the talents' eyes (left eye in these examples). Is this from DRS, my gamma settings? Anyone else coming across this? Yes, the production value sucks in these shots but I'm just concerned about the left eye here. Thought maybe someone had a quick answer or a better understanding of what's going on then myself. Shot on Olympus 14-54 with available lighting and settings:

PH 1080/30p
detail -5
V detail -5
detail coring 0
chroma level 0
chroma phase 0
master ped 0
DRS 1
gamma b.press
knee MID
matrix Fluo
skin detail OFF
eye1.jpgeye2.jpg
 
it looks to me like just a lighting issue (the light is too high and there is no fill). can you use some bounce board or a reflector kit and add in some fill light to his face?
 
At this low resolution, I can't see what you're talking about. Maybe reposting at 1080p would make the issue clearer.
 
I mainly see a lighting problem, some fill would help bringing both men back to life and also help exposing the image more evenly, without that extreme contrast between the background and the actors. If you don't have anything to use as fill even a white piece of paper can be useful. Try to look for a piece of foamboard, it does wonders in these situation and would let you close the iris a bit, lowering the highlights and the risk of blown highlights on his face.
 
This is definitely a lighting issues as the others have said. Some makeup would also help with the dark circles. A competent makeup person could help solve this issue for you in addition to the improved lighting.
Jim
 
Anytime you light an actor from an above source, it will cause shadow under the eye, due to eyelashes, it's even worse when it comes to women and their long or artificial lashes. You can always use a fill, or bounce board to try and even it out.
 
mkfotos.com said:
At this low resolution, I can't see what you're talking about. Maybe reposting at 1080p would make the issue clearer.
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Im leaning toward the light issue, but without full res stills as mentioned by mkfotos - really anyones guess.
 
I guess the best way for you to know is that the next time you're shooting something similar, toggle DRS on and off and take shots both ways. That would let you know if DRS was at fault.

DRS can cause a shadowing effect but it really shows up on high-contrast transitions -- like a white wall up against deep dark green grass. That's the kind of scenario that will cause the shadowing from DRS.
 
As a rule, I don't use DRS if there are moving object in the frame. The halos become very obvious to me. Locked off shots with little movement is better at disguising the halo problems.
 
IMHO, this looks like a lighting issue as well. Having a diffused side light would have fixed this up.
It's exaggerated due to the sunlight from the window. DRS or no, you're gonna get the "sunken
socket" from the bridge of the nose without a side-light.

jeff
 
thank you all for the feedback. i should have posted hi res pics. here they are. i agree that a fill would help but i used to never get this total "raccoon eye" effect nearly as much on previous cameras (XL2, EX1, T2i). And, 1 example here is a little over exposed and the other is a little under exposed... same eye shadow problem in both. I should probably run some tests with my settings before my next shoot. thanks again.

hi res examples:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1398514/eye 1.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1398514/eye 2.png
 
Matthew Benjamin Canada said:
thank you all for the feedback. i should have posted hi res pics. here they are. i agree that a fill would help but i used to never get this total "raccoon eye" effect nearly as much on previous cameras (XL2, EX1, T2i). And, 1 example here is a little over exposed and the other is a little under exposed... same eye shadow problem in both. I should probably run some tests with my settings before my next shoot. thanks again.

hi res examples:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1398514/eye 1.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1398514/eye 2.png
Click to expand...

hmm...
Do you still have any other cameras still? could you do a test?
I can't imagine that a camera would treat this one part different...
hmmm....
 
I would have to say that this is a lighting issue and not DRS as DRS would be outlining the figure of the person, it would be outlining the brightest object in the scene not the midtone of the guys eyes. Given this shot I wouldn't have even had DRS on. The range doesn't appear to be that wide. You really needed a fill light for the guys face.

Hope this helps,

Jan
 
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