Weird Blotches. Please Help!

Rick Meyer

Rick Meyer

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Okay guys and gals. The following link is for a very brief clip of an edit I am working on. I've sort of left this clip and am now coming back to it because I just want to get this done.

This is an example of digital artifacts. After the brief title sequence there is a shot of a cliff overlooking the Pacific Ocean. The shot then pans right to a an area filled with empty wedding chairs. During this pan, the bushes, in the middle of the shot, display serious blotches and digital smearing. I cannot figure it out. I know I applied SteadyMove to the shot to smooth the pan movement...but there has got to be a way to correct this, if in fact, the steadymove is what is causing it.

Please take the time to take a look. And if you have advice, good God, I'd love to hear it. Thanks a lot.

Rick http://files.filefront.com/DVXuserclipwmv/;4375074;;/fileinfo.html
PS I am using Premiere Pro 1.5, if that helps. I posted this in TECHNICAL because it might not be a NLE issue. Who knows?
 
First off, the site that you are using to host your file is horrible. I nearly ran out of patience waiting nearly 8 minutes to download a 1 MB file. While waiting, the site attempted to open numerous popups (all blocked). Get a better host!

The "digital artifacts" look a lot like dropouts in the middle of the pan. Since the pan is fairly fast and it looks like you may have been zooming out at the same time you are really challenging the compression. Also once you apply any filtration (steadymove) it is difficult to be certain what is happening as the original effected frames are no longer present.

So, now on to the questions:

Camera and mode?

Have you looked at this clip frame-by-frame in Premiere?

Have you attempted to recapture this clip?
 
yes, the host is horrible. if you have a tip on another host, I will not walk, i will RUN there.

I shot this in 30P squeeze mode. Yes, I am zoomed out. And, I have tried to re-capture this clip. But, the blotches are not always there. If I apply nothing to the clip, there are no blotches. But the movement is too jittery without Steadymove. So, I am forced to use it.

Hmmm....I guess it makes sense that steadymove is causing the problem. Assuming that is the case, any suggestions on how to get it to play nicely with my bushes?

Rick
EDIT: okay...another clue...if I apply steadymove, it looks fine. It's just when I render it out do the artifacts rear their ugly head. ugh!
 
Sorry Rick, I don't have a suggestion for a hosting site (I have my own server so I don't use any) but I am certain that I have read suggestions from other users here (do a search). I would guess that you could choose anything and it would be better than what you are currently using. They really are that bad.

The most obvious "fix" would be to not use this clip since it was likely panned too fast for progressive footage (even 30p). Can you cut to something else to break up the move?

Since this appears to be a wedding video, you can take more liberties than if this were a theatrical project. Can you extract some frames from this move and do something creative with some stills that will cut into this? Can you reshoot this up to the part just before you reveal the chairs, following the panning rules a little more carefully?
 
hmm, you are right. The most definitive solution for this shot is to edit it out completely. I am rooting for it though because it reveals the beauty of the setting as an establishing shot. So, I will play with it a little and try to alter the render settings. Unfortunately, I cannot reshoot. I live in NY and this shot was taken in Pismo Beach, Cali. Therefore, I either cut it out completely or find a better way to hide the problem.

Thanks Khmuse.

Rick
 
Hey I am only 4 hours south of Pismo, so why not just hire me as a second unit to go out and get your reshoot for you?

Seriously, check to see if anyone (perhaps a guest or family member) has a good high resolution still shot you could use to establish the environment and then consider this as a lesson in progressive shooting style panning techniques.

I am sure you can come up with a decent way to hide this little problem.

Good luck on the project!
 
yeah, you are right. this is a lesson all right. it is the only bit in all of my footage that has any issues. I like your suggestion. Heck, I might even have a still. Since it IS my sister's wedding, I'm half thinking about leaving it in and just mentioning it to her real quick and move on with my life. I'm sure she won't care nearly as much as I do.
 
Just say something like, "yeah, cool effect, isn't it..." or just do something cliche like a dissolve of her in her wedding dress over the pan segment, perhaps a picture of her when she was a kid, there are so many things you could try. Only a filmmaker is really going to be that obsessive about a family wedding video.
 
Your ISP shoould certainly offer its users some web space for personal use. Some 50MB some 100MB of space or more.
Contact your service provider.
 
MarcM-
That is a great idea. I never thought of that. I will go ahead and call them to see what they can do for me. Putfile is a very trashy site. It does the trick but it is filled with banner ads and what have you? And, the interface is not very intuitive. I hate using it.
Rick
 
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