weddinng video shoot with glidecam 4000

Nice one.
(watched first half only...seems you are still uploading the file)

I see a common 'problem' though, and that is that these shots always appear to be having the camera too high. It's exaggerated by the fact that we use wide angle lenses with these devices. We see the sky, but not the persons' feet. The POV is just awkward.

Unfortunately the only workaround I have found is to 'artificially' point the cam down, unless the cam can be lowered by 5", which sometimes isn't possible, technically (depending on the device).
I wonder why they don't design these devices so that the cam's lens is more shoulder height, not eye height: it would yield much more pleasing results.

Sorry, avr, that was a complaint about GlideCam(s), not your video.

Well done.
 
Okay, well in that case: lower the cam! ;-)

Like I mentioned, it's not always an easy task depending on what device.
I've never used the Glidecam 4000, but just looking at this picture:
http://glidecam.com/product-body-pod.php
it's not as easy as it ought to be.

(I super-modified my V16 to get the cam where I want it to be.)
 
..yeah the 2000 and 4000 are handheld, and you can buy the bodypod or other body mounts to stick them on. of course with a spring tension arm on a vest mount you can just adjust the springs or the arm to have it sit at the right height, or i sort of boom the cam up and down on the arm as needed during a shot to get varied heights. that body pod however looks like a pos.. it totally removes any of the shock absorbing properties of your arm and wrist from the equation.. but for long standing shots its a good platform to rest it on and keep shooting i guess.
 
Hi, sorry i wrote the post and the video wasn´t uploading completely in the server, now you can see the complete video.

Villed, I agree with you. the shootings with glidecam are high and i am thinking in to place the cam in the plate like this picture
glidecamdvx.jpg


I hate theese high shootings because if you want make a good picture you have to bend down and my backstroke is finished destroyed.

I have the glidecam body pod but it only working when you make still shootings, but if you walk with this device you get a earthquake shotting

thanks for the suggestions
 
Just buy a Smooth Shooter, you gonna love it. You can lower your camera , you can even higher and lower the camera while you are running.

The other solution is to use an arm bracket and a camcorder like a PDX-10 or DVC30.
 
Hey avr:

avr said:
I agree with you. the shootings with glidecam are high and i am thinking in to place the cam in the plate like this picture
glidecamdvx.jpg
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Yeah, I like that, and that should work. Cool.


SergejIvanovits:
Interesting; mainly because for the first time we actually see a picture where the cam is at a more acceptable level:
http://www.glidecam.com/product-smooth-shooter-2.php

That's where it ought to be....that's wadimatalkinaboud!
 
yeah i liked it too. looked very steady. so you only used the glidecam 4000
without the body pod for that shoot?
 
joakim said:
yeah i liked it too. looked very steady. so you only used the glidecam 4000
without the body pod for that shoot?
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Hi joakim i always work with glidecam 4000 without body pod, it´s very niggling if you are walking with it. I often shoot with glidecam like a monopod, one hand in camera (rec-pause/ zoom) and the other hand holds the glidecam´s post.
 
Just my 2cents... changing the angle of your camera on the bracket... won't that change your center of balance and defeat the purpose of a glidecam? From what I understand these steady cam systems depend heavily on the camera's center of gravity.
 
mastertee31 said:
Just my 2cents... changing the angle of your camera on the bracket... won't that change your center of balance and defeat the purpose of a glidecam? From what I understand these steady cam systems depend heavily on the camera's center of gravity.
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Any set-up is always going to be different, and have different lenses/adapters, batteries, lights, and microphones, etc. Therefore most every stabilization device will have a way to re-balance should something change.

So, yes, you are correct in that any change to the cam's weight or position will require a re-balancing of the rig.

But all the stabilization device is trying to accomplish is to eliminate the transfer of the camera operator's movements to cam. They do this with varying degree of success.
 
body-pod_main.jpg


The body pod is the devil. I've shot with the glidecam 2000 and 4000 (with the dvx and nothing else, they're both fine, but the 4000 helps with accessories) but when I mounted the 4000 on the body pod, the thing was a pain to control. It's there to take the weight off your arm, but it also takes vibrations from your footsteps. Not even less attractive tom cruise or whoever's in the photo can make me believe it helps.
 
Anyone play with the Merlin? I have a stedicam JR, and have a hell of time getting it just right because the DVX is maxing out the wieght limit.
 
vidled said:
Yeah, I like that, and that should work.
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Hey avr,
on second thought your idea about tilting the cam might not be so desireable after all. I have a feeling it may appear like looking down on your subjects. I do still think the best position for center-lens is a few inches below eye level; somewhere around shoulder level or so. And pointing straight, i.e. level.

OF COURSE: it depends on HOW TALL you are and how tall the subjects is! ;-)

But if you do test the tilting position, please let us know how it worked out for you. I'd be interested to know.

Cheers.
 
vidled said:
Any set-up is always going to be different, and have different lenses/adapters, batteries, lights, and microphones, etc. Therefore most every stabilization device will have a way to re-balance should something change.

So, yes, you are correct in that any change to the cam's weight or position will require a re-balancing of the rig.

But all the stabilization device is trying to accomplish is to eliminate the transfer of the camera operator's movements to cam. They do this with varying degree of success.
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I stand corrected.
 
vidled said:
Hey avr,
on second thought your idea about tilting the cam might not be so desireable after all. I have a feeling it may appear like looking down on your subjects. I do still think the best position for center-lens is a few inches below eye level; somewhere around shoulder level or so. And pointing straight, i.e. level.

OF COURSE: it depends on HOW TALL you are and how tall the subjects is! ;-)

But if you do test the tilting position, please let us know how it worked out for you. I'd be interested to know.

Cheers.
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well I´m 180 cm. (5,91 foot) tall and the groom was 160 cm. (5,25 foot) tall.

I´m going to make some test with DVX tilting in the glidecam. I will post the result here.
regards
 
I have the 4000 and always wonder how everyone get's good footage with it. My arm is usually dead after like 5 minutes. Considering that $1,500 unit they have, I think it's called the Steady Shooter, anyone using it?
 
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