Wedding Clip

Rick Meyer

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Hey gang! I finally have some time to finish my sisters wedding video. Thank God.
I have to get this wrapped up before their 1 year anniversary!

Please take a look at this clip. Constructive criticism please. I know this needs some color correction, but I gotta tell ya...not my strength. So, if you have a shot that you feel needs it, and if you have some advice on how to best handle it (besides saying "curves" and "levels") im all ears. ;o)

Thanks in advance-
Rick

http://files.filefront.com/FILE_VOTE/;5178939;5;/fileinfo.html

EDIT: I just realized that I ran it through Premieres compressor without checking off the widescreen selection. This clip is squeezed. It should be widescreen. Just so you know...I know....thanks again...
 
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#1: GET A TRIPOD WITH FLUID HEAD (Your shots are everywhere)

#2: Avoid the cross disolves if possible (Straight cuts are sometimes more effective)

#3: When doing your color corrections, use curves (Use an S curve though)

I think that most of the framing is pretty decent, but you definately need to lose the song (Unless it has a personal meaning) The song doesn't match your cutting at all (The song is slow but cutting is eratic and fast) It also doesn't do your video justice either. Good luck with future projects though.
 
Nice song. I love the Old 97s. What's this version from? Different from the album version I have...

I guess it depends on what look you're going for. Personally, for a wedding film, I think people want that slow, homey, lovely feeling. I get the sense that slower cuts gives this effect.

That line-up where the lyrics 'he took her by the hand', where hand comes when there's a close-up on her hand with the ring...this seems forced.
 
Hmmmm... it's definitely different for a wedding montage... but I kind of like it. It's not traditional, and that could be a good thing, or a bad thing, it just depends on the couple.

Needs some color correction... or at least bring down the blacks. I usually gripe about shaky footage, but it kind of fits here... I get a documentary feel out of it. There's plenty of room for improvement, for sure, but it doesn't look bad. It all depends on if the couple would like it or not. Just from the looks of them, I'd guess they'd want something more traditional, but you'd know better than I. If that's the case, I'd suggest using a different song, and slowing the footage down. The slow mo always works wonders in getting the sappy feeling ;)

Here's a link to a couple weddings I've done. They were a long time ago (before I knew CC and, apparantly, anything but cross dissolve's), but they'll give you a sense of the "traditional" montage.

http://avsday.com/video.html

I did all of the "montage's" on that page, the "ft worth botanical", and the "Doral Highlights". Yes, there's plenty wrong with them, not looking for critiques, just showing you what the "norm" is. Clients were all very happy, and for what I got paid at that time, I wouldn't spend any more time on them.
 
rcbrown23 said:
P.S. what song is that ???? I dig it.

Thanks guys (and gals?) for the comments.

rcbrown23...the song is QUESTION by Rhett Miller.

mastertee31 said:
#1: GET A TRIPOD WITH FLUID HEAD (Your shots are everywhere)

#2: Avoid the cross disolves if possible (Straight cuts are sometimes more effective)

#3: When doing your color corrections, use curves (Use an S curve though)

I think that most of the framing is pretty decent, but you definately need to lose the song (Unless it has a personal meaning) The song doesn't match your cutting at all (The song is slow but cutting is eratic and fast) It also doesn't do your video justice either. Good luck with future projects though.




Thanks for taking the time to view this and comment on it. I do have tripod shots and I've also cut another montage of this wedding to an Enya song that is very slow and traditional. So, I probably should have mentioned that I am striving to give them a DVD that covers a lot of moods and a lot of bases. I was trying to go for something more untraditional. Something more interesting to the eye. So thats what this thread is all about...to find out if it works or not...so thanks for the feedback everybody.


I am new to the wedding videography thing. As I type this, I am still trying to figure out how I am going to produce the rest of the footage. I've got a couple montages and now I have to edit the rest of the thing. So, I am feeling my way as I go in terms of how this DVD should flow from beginning to end. I don't want this DVD to remind them of Friday Night Videos (dating myself here) where its just clip after clip. But, I do feel the montages are fun, easy on the eye, and helps to get a lot of info across in a short amount of time.

But again, I am new. so these comments are very important to me. I trust the DVXuser nation.


As for the bride, its my sister. Chances are, shed like ANYthing I do because its me. But, I want it to be special. And, I want the time, care and quality to be there when its complete. So, this feedback is very important to me. I am listening and considering everything.

So please, keep it coming...

Rick
 
that song might be more appropriate for the post-ceremony/pre-first dance coverage, when everyone is happy and relaxed (not that they weren't happy and relaxed before the ceremony). i always try to build up to the ceremony using slow motion, smooth transitions, and a lush, developing score.

but i do like the way you cut to the music, and think it would be more effective had the cuts been faster.

i agree that you need a fluid head on that tripod. and it seemed like you were using the tripod too much. it's a lot easier to get a variety of interesting shots when you're carrying a camera only. sticks are for ceremonies.
 
bewillia said:
but i do like the way you cut to the music, and think it would be more effective had the cuts been faster.


mastertee31 said:
The song doesn't match your cutting at all (The song is slow but cutting is eratic and fast)

HaHa! Different Strokes for Different folks I guess. I truly appreciate the feedback everybody. Good and Bad. Its helping me a lot.

Please keep it coming...

Rick
 
Ok I just checked it out and here are my suggestions

I would slow down the footage some. It doesn't have to be a lot may %10 more but just so it's not as fast.

I also do agree with the tripod or maybe some type of brace to steady the shots a little more.

I like the blurred transitions that you did.

I would add some Fade to Blacks to seperate scenes. For instance when I do my wedding videos I like to show the groom first then the bride but I seperate the two with a fade to black just so people understand that this is different.

Oh I also wish it was a little brighter for the inside shots. I don't know if that was as bright as you could get it but I would expose for their faces because if you expose for the outside window everything would be underexposed
 
hey thanks. Yes, you are right, i am dealing with trying to bring up the levels on their faces right now. this was my very first run with the DVX. Last summer, I had it for a few months and did little more than play with it. So, I am learning that lesson right now. next time, expose for the face and have the light behind me!

im surprised at the "shaky footage" comments. Personally, i was so fine with it that it didnt even occur to me to take another look at that. but thats why im posting this. i want to learn.

thanks again. hey, ive got much more to learn so ill still check back here for more feedback...keep it coming...

Rick
 
Well, its totally great to know! I've never had a wedding video "client". So, I havent been out there hearing their comments. If I do any more of these, I'm just going to have to get a DVrig pro. I know its not a stabilizer but lugging the tripod around, everywhere to everything gets maddening and bogs ya down.

I think that DVrig pro will give me the best of both worlds. Freedom and smoother footage!

Thanks again!
 
rlm7189 said:
Well, its totally great to know! I've never had a wedding video "client". So, I havent been out there hearing their comments. If I do any more of these, I'm just going to have to get a DVrig pro. I know its not a stabilizer but lugging the tripod around, everywhere to everything gets maddening and bogs ya down.

I think that DVrig pro will give me the best of both worlds. Freedom and smoother footage!

Thanks again!

I can vouch for the DVRig Pro. It's great. I've shot interviews with it and you can't tell that I'm not on a tripod.
 
Hey, now that I have your attention...I have another quick question about packaging a wedding DVD...

How much of the ceremony makes it to the final DVD for most of you? Thing is, the ceremony is the most important part. Its why we have weddings. But, its also the most boring. So, I really don't know if brides want the record of that ceremony or if they'd prefer the ceremony to be here and there in snippets, throughout the entire course of the 45-60 minute wedding video. In fact, I'm thinking about doing what I WANT to do, then capturing raw footage of the ceremony on a 2nd DVD so they'll always have it.

I once watched a wedding video of JUST the ceremony. No edits whatsoever. It was so boring it made my eyes bleed.

What about you guys?
 
you've got the right idea making two versions.
edited version on main dvd.
long version on 2nd dvd.
 
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