Watch your screen calibration

Hywel

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Hi All,

There's nothing like the moment of illumination when something you know in theory bites you in the ass in reality.

If I'm honest, I had not been blown away by my AF101 footage thus far. I knew there was bound to be a way to go on settings (this forum has been awesome in helping me zero in on settings I like, thanks everyone!) But it seemed like I was getting further and further away, because the first stuff I'd shot had looked great.

This afternoon I was editing some footage which for some reason the white balance (done in the usual way with a white target) had gone a bit awry and I'd ended up with a slightly cold scene with a mild magenta cast from the reflected light from a purple bed spread. Not bin-the-footage, but enough to make me nervous that the footage would fall apart in the necessary grade.

Indeed, such seemed to be the case. I got HORRIBLE posterisation on the white wall at the back of the scene where there was a smooth falloff gradient. Before the grade it was faintly noticeable if I looked closely. After the grade it was AWFUL. There were big, abrupt colour steps.

Funny thing is that this particular posterisation issue seemed to be getting worse and worse with every shoot I did, and no settings on the camera seemed to be pulling it back. It seemed like whatever I did, the footage didn't look as good as the first few shots I'd taken when I got the camera. I was Dr. Grumpy.

Then I noticed something. The footage looked rather different on my two, supposedly calibrated, Apple Cinema Displays. Green cast on one, magenta cast on the other. No worries, I thought, I'll redo my calibration, haven't done it in a couple of weeks.

When I re-ran the calibration something was clearly amiss- a very bad magenta cast. I'm not talking "that looks a bit too reddy-purple" I am talking triple layers of full minus-green filter, everything absolutely purple. I did it again- another weird colour cast, bit less than before.

I tried it by eye using Apple Gamma. Instant improvement. Both monitors now agree and look much crisper and lush. They may not be "right" but at least they are internally consistent, and I've got back a bit of the richer shadows and cleaner highlights that I'd vaguely wondered about the last few calibrations diluting.

Then I looked at my AF101 footage again. The posterisation problems have diminished to the point where they are just no issue. I won't say they aren't there- you CAN see a bit of banding if you look- but the key problem was that the bad calibration had the monitors straining so hard that they were over-emphasising every last step and gradation. The exact mechanism for this I am not sure of but...

I conclude that my six year old Spyder is broken, has probably been on its way out for a few weeks, and that it was the bad-and-getting-worse screen calibrations that were causing me grief. Hallelujah, the self same footage graded to rescue it now looks absolutely fine, perfectly acceptable, and some of the stuff I shot at the weekend which was looking OK-ish before is now looking spectacular.

I know the "real" answer is a proper broadcast reference monitor, but at least for now I have improved my AF101 viewing experience by the simple expedient of calibrating by eye rather than by hardware. The Spyder is in the bin, and a replacement is on order.

And I feel a hell of a lot better about the AF101 footage than I did this afternoon.

A curious thing is that the HVX200 footage seemed to hold up better even when I had the bad calibration, but that now looks even nicer too. I guess there probably is more posterisation in the AF101 footage but without the crappy monitor calibration blowing it out of all proportion it is hardly visible as opposed to being shot-wrecking.

Hooray. Calibrate. And sanity check your calibration hardware!

Cheers, Hywel.
 
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Same thing happened with my MBP's internal screen. I use my Spyder to calibrate it, but occasionally my preferences will reset themselves when I start using dual monitors. After a day of shooting I reviewed the footage and had intense posterization, noisy shadows, and very pink skin highlights. It was terrifying until I started playing with my monitor's color profiles.

I have since lost all trust for both my computer monitors. I would switch back and forth between two color profiles but was astonished to find that the profiles weren't consistent. I would switch from A to B to C, then back again. Profile A looked different depending on the order in which I selected it in relation to B and C. Not not reassuring.

I plan on using the 5.6" TV Logic monitor for calibrating once it arrives. The screen will be a bit small, but at least it can be properly calibrated to bars.
 
Glad there was a happy ending Hywel! Whew, you had me going there.

True, though there has been many issues with monitor calibration. I really hope my spyder calibrated 50" THX Panasonic Plasma will be good enough to properly judge color.
 
Hi,

i had the same problem several weeks ago.
when i look the footage :
on VLC on my macbook pro 17" (calibrate with greta eye one 2) = awful, noisy picture
in FCP on my belinea 21" (calibrate with greta eye one 2) = some strange banding and some contrast pb in the out of focus in the viewer of timeline in FCP
in Color on the belinea 21" : the problem are always there but less visible.

on my HC6000 Mitsubishi videoprojector 1080P from the HDMI output of the camera = Fantastic and amazing of beauty, a cinema like !
on Panasonic BTLH 17" from the HDMI output of the camera = Fantastic and georgous but a little too contrast

so i had a doubt about the graphic card of the macbook pro 17"... i've tested the Matrox MX02 LE to see the FCP video output on a screen in HDMI and on the HD SDI output on a BTLH 17", without use the graphic card of the MBP 17" (the matrox output the timeline in 1080PsF YUV 10 bits).
results : picture is amazing, beautiful, the same cinema like, no problem of contrast, less problem of noise in FCP and too in Color...

it's simple : the NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M in the MBP 17" is just A PIECE OF **** !

V.
 
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