Wages of Sin grabs...

Nathyn

Low Budget Ninja
These are just a couple of framegrabs from the Wages of Sin shoot. This is from the first scene. It will definitely be hotter than my last project. I'll be personally kicking badguy butt 24/7 in this one (these clips come from the first scene) so count on it! If you like martial arts action this is the one for you. I got dreads for this by the way. As we all know the DVX loves red and blue so I took advantage of this as you can see. Click on the pics to see the new site.

-Nate


Shooting at badguys in a five man shoot out.


Thug 2 gets thrown as he tries to grab a fallen gun.

-Nate
 
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By accident you posted this in the HVX section. Maybe John or etc can move this to the DVX threads for you...
 
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InvisionProductions said:
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The camera tends to show red and blue very brightly (IMHO) when in 24/30p mode. That's why you'll probably see a lot of red and blues. I do use saturation too so keep that in mind. Check the blue suit.
a2zproductions said:
Looks like a video game.
Cool!
Adrian
Thanks. It's funny you said that because that's the model for the fights. Moving the fights along, each location being dramatically different just like on a fighting game, with bosses and the like.

-Nate
 
I'm shooting more stuff this summer if anyone wants to help I'll be glad to have you. If you bring a jib arm that would be even better. No pay but it is listed on IMDB and I will surely add you. This is a feature so if you're a film student or just looking to pad your resume come on out. Plus as always pizza, Subway or Chinese food will be served. We normally meet at Columbia College. If you're interested PM me.

-Nate
 
Just for some reference before you get it from others. Blue and Red arn't very good on DV, more muted tones are... Video already has PUNCH to it, and red tends to become too bright or over-saturated. and if you're depending on desaturating your reds it still may bleed on your footage and footage that bleeds? = bad footage.
 
directinglegend said:
Just for some reference before you get it from others. Blue and Red arn't very good on DV, more muted tones are... Video already has PUNCH to it, and red tends to become too bright or over-saturated. and if you're depending on desaturating your reds it still may bleed on your footage and footage that bleeds? = bad footage.

What he said.
 
Thanks for the info. Actually I like the bright red. I usually dress my main characters in either red or blue. I usually give the chick a red dress or something like that to make her bright. As you can see from the pics the red and blues have come out pretty nicely, but I won't saturate too much.

-Nate
 
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Or better yet, keep all your colors and overall image as flat as possible. I find the colors are better when CC'd in post production. My reds come out pretty nice when I do that.
 
shooting any primary colour on DV really shows the limitations of the DV codec...

greens not as much, but red and blue quite a bit..
 
Honestly I've never experienced too many problems in this area. I love the way this stuff stands out brightly and it makes it look more filmic to me. Look at the colors in RKO 281 or in "Bram Stoker's Dracula". I love those thick satuated colors. Bright colors are great for action films.

Now that I have the lighting kit I'll be hitting the scenes with the 500 Watt photofloods and bring out the color in everything. In these scenes we shot in an enclosed alley. We didn't have any plugs so we used sunlight and the Some of the scene we color corrected, others were bright enough.

The action shots were most important considering the nature of the film. I've altered my fighting style to include more Akido influence with redirects, throws and locks. There will still be some good old fashioned punching and kicking too but I think throws add a wonderful physical dynamic. This was every bit as much as an experiment as it was a shoot. If the fights looked like crap I wasn't going to be able to use them.

I love the DVX100. I just saw the DVX100a today on a short shoot. They're matching mine up to it. They're going to shoot on both then they're going to mask the footage in the computer for 16:9.

-Nate
 
UncleBenji1977 said:
Or better yet, keep all your colors and overall image as flat as possible. I find the colors are better when CC'd in post production. My reds come out pretty nice when I do that.

I do the same thing. I always shoot real flat, and CC in post to where I want it... I don't have bleed problems hardly ever.
 
Nathyn said:
Honestly I've never experienced too many problems in this area. I love the way this stuff stands out brightly and it makes it look more filmic to me. Look at the colors in RKO 281 or in "Bram Stoker's Dracula". I love those thick satuated colors. Bright colors are great for action films.

Now that I have the lighting kit I'll be hitting the scenes with the 500 Watt photofloods and bring out the color in everything. In these scenes we shot in an enclosed alley. We didn't have any plugs so we used sunlight and the Some of the scene we color corrected, others were bright enough.

The action shots were most important considering the nature of the film. I've altered my fighting style to include more Akido influence with redirects, throws and locks. There will still be some good old fashioned punching and kicking too but I think throws add a wonderful physical dynamic. This was every bit as much as an experiment as it was a shoot. If the fights looked like crap I wasn't going to be able to use them.

-Nate


Just make sure there is a story to go along with your killer moves.. otherwise paint drying might be as interesting to watch... avoid the trap of boring action films..
 
Thanks. It's funny you said that because that's the model for the fights. Moving the fights along, each location being dramatically different just like on a fighting game, with bosses and the like.

I like the look and the idea behind it.:thumbup:

Problem with red for me is that it makes it tougher to CC an actor's face. It's a fight between blowing out the red and getting the face perfect. (For example: a red shirt.)
 
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PJC said:
I like the look and the idea behind it.:thumbup:

Problem with red for me is that it makes it tougher to CC an actor's face. It's a fight between blowing out the red and getting the face perfect. (For example: a red shirt.)

Thanks. And I know what you mean. I had to do that one time, turn the red up in a scene for color correction. What we try to do is keep the lighting even so we don't have those problems but even then it's not always on point. Now that I have the lighting kit so that will make things a lot easier. I also have a spreader dolly now as well so we can have smooth motion on the non handheld scenes.

Jeffrey said:
Nathyn, your movie looks cool. Like Sonny Chiba meets Shaft! Can't wait to see it.

I plan to upload a rough of the whole first tonight maybe. I have done any real color correction or anything yet but just so you can see how it flows.

Loki said:
Just make sure there is a story to go along with your killer moves.. otherwise paint drying might be as interesting to watch... avoid the trap of boring action films..

Well click on one of those pics to go to our site and from there you can check out IMDB page. It's got the whole story there. But for a low budget production, (like some of the Gary Daniels flicks or that "Latin Dragon" movie) the fighting has to be great because if it's not people will definitely call you on everything else because the action is what they're paying to see. Obviously people want an interesting story but bad action can kill a low budget actioner.

Considering for now I'm in total control of all the production particularly choreography (not to mention this time all the fighters know martial arts) I think it will all turn out well. I've been suprised so far at how it's come together. Even little things I thought were problems have been blessings in disguise. Check out the first scene when I upload it. You'll see what I mean. You'll figure out the plot pretty quick, but you learn more as the story unfolds. And not only that but CiCi, Doshia and Riti are total babes. No action film is complete without cuties.

ritikick.jpg


-Nate
 
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