Everything up to the point where she is turned around is all from the camera, the last part where the shot "settles" into the last frame is done by just moving the frame over for a more suitable framing. I didn't do anything to remap the motion of the talent.
GH1 Video what am I doing wrong?
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Everything up to the point where she is turned around is all from the camera, the last part where the shot "settles" into the last frame is done by just moving the frame over for a more suitable framing. I didn't do anything to remap the motion of the talent.
On a general note, what I found is that my computers (Laptop, desktop) and the installed players are not able to display 1080p24 (or 25) without stutter - they seem to run more on 15 - 18 frames per second, not 24.
If you look at youtube examples (what you have posted), these are all more or less SD or HD ready (720p for the most) examples. These files can be displayed without stutter by my computer. Hence, I am constantly amazed how much better the motion looks on my own vids when they are displayed via youtube or vimeo.
Don't forget this fact.
If you look at youtube examples (what you have posted), these are all more or less SD or HD ready (720p for the most) examples. These files can be displayed without stutter by my computer. Hence, I am constantly amazed how much better the motion looks on my own vids when they are displayed via youtube or vimeo.
Don't forget this fact.
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The recent DRIFTWOOD hack patches are mostly GOP-1. This is what is generally referred to as AVC-INTRA. The AVCHD name covers a lot of different variations.
Again, despite what some folks may say - there have been other shooters who swear that the motion qualities of the GH2 simply do not look the same as from other DSLR's. These have been people with a lot of experience and access to professional facilities. I agree with them - the GH2 motion almost always looks a bit like "high frame rate" motion, although I have seen it look smooth in some instances. I really think getting around the over-sharpening of the Panasonic lenses is a MUST for a first step. The better looking stuff always seems to be done with non-Panny primes.
Shutter speed to 40, and a B.D.3 filter. Try that and let me know what you think.
Watch this and tell me if you think these shots feel smoother:
http://vimeo.com/32563119
~Cheers
I've ordered one of those filters, so I'll test it out, thank you for suggesting it.
I checked out that video, and yes many of those clips have that feel I am after, and some do not.
This is probably one of the best examples I've found - in addition to the one with the Red, and 5D2.
Note: I'm not an expert at this, just play one on the web. I learned this stuff from web articles (linked below).
Film cameras have an effect called "penumbral sweep", the fade-in and fade-out effect of each sweep of the rotating mechanical shutter over the film, that gives real film a smoother motion than the instant on and off of electronic shutters. RED has reproduced this effect electronically on some of their newer releases. Here is Adam Wilt's article where he discusses the effect and the electronic reproduction of it: http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/awilt/story/red_visit_21_september_hdrx/
Now, that implies that like every other minute technical detail of digital video that cannot be discovered except through experimentation, not all 24p shutters are created equally, so some cameras may have an implementation that leads to smoother motion than others. Other than RED, I have not heard of anyone else who has specifically addressed this kind of effect, so until someone does a scientific comparison of this effect on the current cameras out there, it's anyone's guess which models perform better in this area.
Film cameras have an effect called "penumbral sweep", the fade-in and fade-out effect of each sweep of the rotating mechanical shutter over the film, that gives real film a smoother motion than the instant on and off of electronic shutters. RED has reproduced this effect electronically on some of their newer releases. Here is Adam Wilt's article where he discusses the effect and the electronic reproduction of it: http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/awilt/story/red_visit_21_september_hdrx/
Now, that implies that like every other minute technical detail of digital video that cannot be discovered except through experimentation, not all 24p shutters are created equally, so some cameras may have an implementation that leads to smoother motion than others. Other than RED, I have not heard of anyone else who has specifically addressed this kind of effect, so until someone does a scientific comparison of this effect on the current cameras out there, it's anyone's guess which models perform better in this area.
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YESSSSSSSSSSSS I SOLVED IT!!!
Sorry for the shouting! But I finally found out what was the problem! Thank you guys for all your suggestions!
The problem was the video card driver on my Windows 7 system.
In the driver control panel of the NVIDIA card there was a checkbox, it was called "Inverse Telecine" I checked that little box, and suddenly smooth flowing motion! No judder or stutter, everything flowed nicely. I also tried to burn a blu-ray disk and play in my new blu-ray player, smooth as silk! But when I play the .mp4 or .mts files on my TV's media player - juddery and stuttery. But blu-ray smooooth!!!!!!!!! I am so happy, now that I know this, I can finally stop worrying about motion blur, and start to worry about learning proper lighting and composition!!!
Thank you guys!
Sorry for the shouting! But I finally found out what was the problem! Thank you guys for all your suggestions!
The problem was the video card driver on my Windows 7 system.
In the driver control panel of the NVIDIA card there was a checkbox, it was called "Inverse Telecine" I checked that little box, and suddenly smooth flowing motion! No judder or stutter, everything flowed nicely. I also tried to burn a blu-ray disk and play in my new blu-ray player, smooth as silk! But when I play the .mp4 or .mts files on my TV's media player - juddery and stuttery. But blu-ray smooooth!!!!!!!!! I am so happy, now that I know this, I can finally stop worrying about motion blur, and start to worry about learning proper lighting and composition!!!
Thank you guys!
I also found that the clips that look "video" and not "film" are ones with hard blown out highlights. It is almost like objects that doesn't normally have specularity - suddenly does, I think it has to do with the dynamic range of the sensor. It is specially evident in scenes with hard lights - such as sunlight. I will try to takle this with some ND filters and shooting near sunrise / sunset or in light controlled enviroments in the future 
I'm so happy!!!!!!!!! I love my cameras now!!! Now I just need to learn...
I'm so happy!!!!!!!!! I love my cameras now!!! Now I just need to learn...