RONINFILMER
Active member
I Want To Get Vegas But I Am Wondering About Its Flaws. I Have Heard Some Complaints But I Wanted You Know Your Guys Opinion. Any Complaints Small Or Big Name Them. Use This Post To Get It Out Your System.
Vegas Editors
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HorseFilms
Look ma no hands
I hate that the workflow is so smooth that I finish projects faster and then spend more time drinking... oh, wait.
Jeremy Ordan
Major Contributor
Vegas does a lot of great things for me, but there are also some things that it does not do.
Vegas works perfectly with 24p footage. Furthermore, the effects within Vegas are pretty robust. It has a great user community filled with experts who can teach you how to do tons of things. It implements with plugins nicely, has a good title program, and key framing is very simple. As Horse mentioned, the workflow is customizable to your liking and it works perfectly. It is lightning fast to operate with and just very smooth. There are two hundred ways to do a single thing in Vegas, so you find what works best for you and you can run with it. The best part of Vegas though is that it is the most stable piece of software I use. I have never had it crash on me during a render, and can count on one hand how many times it has crashed during an edit (this isn't even that bad as the autosave restores everything for you).
What Vegas will not do though is capitalize the first letter of every word you type... I wish it did that because it makes your post look so much cooler.
Vegas works perfectly with 24p footage. Furthermore, the effects within Vegas are pretty robust. It has a great user community filled with experts who can teach you how to do tons of things. It implements with plugins nicely, has a good title program, and key framing is very simple. As Horse mentioned, the workflow is customizable to your liking and it works perfectly. It is lightning fast to operate with and just very smooth. There are two hundred ways to do a single thing in Vegas, so you find what works best for you and you can run with it. The best part of Vegas though is that it is the most stable piece of software I use. I have never had it crash on me during a render, and can count on one hand how many times it has crashed during an edit (this isn't even that bad as the autosave restores everything for you).
What Vegas will not do though is capitalize the first letter of every word you type... I wish it did that because it makes your post look so much cooler.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
vEGAS rULES !
(Did I screw that up Yankee?)
(Did I screw that up Yankee?)
Jeremy Ordan
Major Contributor
thartley said:I have not worked with any other NLE's to speak of. Not of this caliber. So, no complaints from me.
Other than the fact that it doesn't capitalize, right?
EDIT:
John_Hudson said:
You did screw it up, but if Vegas had that function built it in would have done it automatically for you. You know what? Screw Vegas... I'm going to Windows Movie Maker, I hear that will capitalize for you.
RONINFILMER
Active member
Does vegas have problems exporting 24 frame mpeg 2 to burn to dvd because premiere has that bug.
No. Vegas does 24p better than anyone.
ANYone.
ANYone.
Sol M.
Veteran
All NLEs have their flaws, including Vegas. Though, I wouldn't say it has any flaws I'd consider "deal breakers" (thus, why I chose to use Vegas)
But here are some of it's less-than-stellar features (or lack thereof):
1) No multi-sequence/timeline support in a single project file
As seen in: FCP, Avid, Premier, AE (okay, technically not a NLE, but I digress...), and even Ulead's consumer-level Media Studio Pro
2) Media Management could use some refining
- Cannot take project media offline from within Vegas (useful for archiving projects, but not source footage)
- Temporary files are stored right alongside the files they reference (quickly clutters up your directories)
> FCP creates cache files in specific directories in the main project directory
- No automated project directory setup: directories for different project assets need to be created manually for each project.
3) No Dedicated tools for Advanced Editing (e.g. Ripple, Roll, Slip, Slide)
- All advanced editing operations are accessed via the mouse and keyboard modifiers (i.e. hold down a key on the keyboard while clicking with the mouse), which makes performing very precise edit operations some what 'clunky'
4) No Photoshop layer support (PSD files are imported as a flattened image)
As seen in: Premier (obviously), FCP, Avid, even Sony's own DVD-Architect (though not an NLE)
5) No frame-by-frame feedback of audio under playhead/cursor
As seen in: FCP, Premier, etc.
Very useful for finding precise points where audio events begin/end. Dragging the cursor along the timeline does provide for some scrub control (and using the right or left mouse buttons to do so will yield shuttle or scrub control), but for precise editing, the keyboard is the ideal tool compared to the mouse.
As I said, I wouldn't necessarily consider any of these things I mentioned to be "deal breakers" for someone who wanted to use Vegas. Those experienced with Vegas have likely found workarounds and may not even notice issues such as these anymore (as it would be with any NLE).
For myself, it all comes down to the workflow. I'll still work on FCP/Avid if the job requires it, but I always know that I could edit practically anything faster and better in Vegas (3 years experience) than I could in FCP/Avid (8+ years experience). While all the NLEs in the same class as Vegas are very powerful, if given the choice, I will almost always edit with Vegas.
But here are some of it's less-than-stellar features (or lack thereof):
1) No multi-sequence/timeline support in a single project file
As seen in: FCP, Avid, Premier, AE (okay, technically not a NLE, but I digress...), and even Ulead's consumer-level Media Studio Pro
2) Media Management could use some refining
- Cannot take project media offline from within Vegas (useful for archiving projects, but not source footage)
- Temporary files are stored right alongside the files they reference (quickly clutters up your directories)
> FCP creates cache files in specific directories in the main project directory
- No automated project directory setup: directories for different project assets need to be created manually for each project.
3) No Dedicated tools for Advanced Editing (e.g. Ripple, Roll, Slip, Slide)
- All advanced editing operations are accessed via the mouse and keyboard modifiers (i.e. hold down a key on the keyboard while clicking with the mouse), which makes performing very precise edit operations some what 'clunky'
4) No Photoshop layer support (PSD files are imported as a flattened image)
As seen in: Premier (obviously), FCP, Avid, even Sony's own DVD-Architect (though not an NLE)
5) No frame-by-frame feedback of audio under playhead/cursor
As seen in: FCP, Premier, etc.
Very useful for finding precise points where audio events begin/end. Dragging the cursor along the timeline does provide for some scrub control (and using the right or left mouse buttons to do so will yield shuttle or scrub control), but for precise editing, the keyboard is the ideal tool compared to the mouse.
As I said, I wouldn't necessarily consider any of these things I mentioned to be "deal breakers" for someone who wanted to use Vegas. Those experienced with Vegas have likely found workarounds and may not even notice issues such as these anymore (as it would be with any NLE).
For myself, it all comes down to the workflow. I'll still work on FCP/Avid if the job requires it, but I always know that I could edit practically anything faster and better in Vegas (3 years experience) than I could in FCP/Avid (8+ years experience). While all the NLEs in the same class as Vegas are very powerful, if given the choice, I will almost always edit with Vegas.
BergVision
Well-known member
VEGAS NLE Vs Others
VEGAS NLE Vs Others
Hello,
I used to be a freelance Video Editor in California. I have cut on Media 100, Avids, FCP, ETC. And I have to say for the money you can't beat VEGAS!
Unlimited Tracks, `
VEGAS NLE Vs Others
Hello,
I used to be a freelance Video Editor in California. I have cut on Media 100, Avids, FCP, ETC. And I have to say for the money you can't beat VEGAS!
Unlimited Tracks, `
BergVision
Well-known member
VEGAS NLE Vs Others
VEGAS NLE Vs Others
Hello,
I used to be a freelance Video Editor in Southern California. I have cut on Media 100, Avids, FCP, ETC. And I have to say for the money you can't beat VEGAS!
Unlimited Tracks of Audio and Video. Wonderful Fx, transitions, color correction, etc. Very easy to layer tracks of Video and text adding shadows, movment. Great rendering options and abilities.
Only down side, is no plug in for HD yet that I know of.
I have never had it crash or give me any problems. Always worked FAST and Smooth! Make sure you get DVD Arch with it!!!
I used to edit on a $90,000 dollar Avid Symphony that crashed more then Vegas ever has.
VEGAS NLE Vs Others
Hello,
I used to be a freelance Video Editor in Southern California. I have cut on Media 100, Avids, FCP, ETC. And I have to say for the money you can't beat VEGAS!
Unlimited Tracks of Audio and Video. Wonderful Fx, transitions, color correction, etc. Very easy to layer tracks of Video and text adding shadows, movment. Great rendering options and abilities.
Only down side, is no plug in for HD yet that I know of.
I have never had it crash or give me any problems. Always worked FAST and Smooth! Make sure you get DVD Arch with it!!!
I used to edit on a $90,000 dollar Avid Symphony that crashed more then Vegas ever has.
It doesn't need a plug-in for HD because it has handled HD natively since version 4.
bighouse
Active member
I've edited AVID for 13 years. I have Avid Xpress Pro & Premier Pro and since I've had Vegas (almost a year now) I haven't used them. But the CONS of Vegas. In order to watch your video on an external monitor, the signal has to come out via firewire to a deck or camera and then chances are you have to take it S video or maybe even RCA (Ugh!) from there. And Of course if you've got the HVX you can't actually edit HD with it. I hope that changes.
Jeremy Ordan
Major Contributor
Actually, I thought you could edit HD with Vegas but it needs to go through a conversion process? I don't know, don't own an HVX.
Sol M.
Veteran
It really depends on the flavor of HD. Vegas has been able to support HD resolutions since version 4. However, support for all specific HD formats (such as DVCPro HD) is not there yet.
That being said, there are ways to edit HVX footage in Vegas by using third-part tools, such as Raylight from DVFilm. Hopefully more will be added to the mix soon.
That being said, there are ways to edit HVX footage in Vegas by using third-part tools, such as Raylight from DVFilm. Hopefully more will be added to the mix soon.
Vegas handles both 1080 and 720 HDV with aplomb if your processor has enough gusto. No imtermediate codec, just the HDV.
Native support DVCPRO-HD, no.
Native support DVCPRO-HD, no.