V for Vendetta

I thought that the movie was amazing...I am a huge fan of the Matrix especially the last two...Once V did the alliteration scene in the beginning I knew I was going to love the movie...Saw it twice...It's the most important movie I have seen in a long time...Now just waiting for X3!
 
not as bad as FROM HELL and LXG

not as bad as FROM HELL and LXG

krestofre said:
Huge Alan Moore fan. Looking forward to this film and was saddened to hear that The Watchmen has essentially been shelved. Sorry you didn't get to make it Jubal....
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Dont' be saddened to hear Watchmen was shelved! That's an adaptation that should never occur. The book is amazing and should be left alone. V For Vendetta works as it's own film, and currently rereading the stories, as an adaptation, it's fairly faithful. But somehow, the idea of some Hollywood hack doing Watchmen... No No NO! it would need to be a mini-series or some such and done by someone that wouldn't just be faithful but have vision to do it, like Christopher Nolan with Batman Begins, Zwigoff with Ghost World, or the couple that did American Splendor.

And let's not forget the potential casting disasters that could occur!! Like Tom Hanks in Road to Perdition! or this new Superman.
 
SPZ said:
Strange, I tought the movie was "an entertaining & thought provoking film that was relevant to the political climate".

People are criticising the film for being too direct...Well, I think the film should be, because even with films like Syriana or Farenheit 9/11, it seems that current world affairs seem not understandable enough for American audiences...
On another note, as an outsider, I do feel Fox News is very similar to BTN- Opinative information? Check (A news channel should inform, not judge and make opinions about the news- that's the principle of journalism. The O'Reilly factor is very similar to the show described in the movie . Pro Government? Check. Manipulation of images in order to pass its "vision"? Check (Iraq destruction of Saddam statue- 20 or so people shot like a Huge crowd and commentary of "Hundreds of Iraqis celebrated...").

Anyway, political debate is useless in a film/video camera forum.
There will be people coming in saying this isn't true, that Farhenheit is a Joke and no such facts were true, Siryana is Anti-American, and probably V for Vendetta is an Anti-American film. Its sad to know that people defend Rulling Governments like they are their Country. They are not. The country are the people. People decide who their governments are, and wheter they stay or go. The media should be a voice of the people, and not of the Government.
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SPZ said:
Freedom, in all its perspectives, is much more important than any materialist confort. You only say that because you are virgin to opression.
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Yawn.
 
V for Vendetta seems to be a loose and very simplistic adaptation of Victor Hugo's Count of Monte Cristo. A man suffers a great injustice and returns for revenge wearing a mask of nobility. V's favourite film, which he shows to Evey is "Count of Monte Cristo.

A similar theme is used in Ben Hur, when Judah Ben Hur is sent into slavery by his Roman friend Messala and later returns for revenge in the garments of Roman privilege.

However, Vendetta is so poorly structured, you have no real feeling of the injustice done to V. Just a few nasty looking guys doing one or two nasty things in flashback. So, when V comes to execute his nemesis', who cares? No tension and resolution.

Like a bad restaurant that has poor service and sloppily prepared dishes, this movie needs to close down for renovations. Maybe some rewriting, reshoots and re-editing might make it better. The old studio bosses would never be this sloppy! Just watch some old Classic Hollywood movies to see real storytelling!

Not totally bad, but not good. Some good sequences. The collectible cup was better!
 
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seejay1031 said:
About the ending... did anyone else feel that when they removed their masks that something else entirely was going on? I'm pretty sure that there was no non-whites up until that part, also the little girl who was shot... wasn't she in that scene? So what is this saying? That the victims are there in spirit with the people of london as they rise up? I don't know just throwing it out there.
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Well I went back and watched the movie last night with my cousin because he hadn't seen it. if you look at the end scene where the little girl shows up, there are 3 more dead people in the crowd. Dietrich, who Evey ran to after the Priest incident, and the 2 lesbians from the note in Evey's cell...
 
jleo said:
V for Vendetta seems to be a loose and very simplistic adaptation of Victor Hugo's Count of Monte Cristo. A man suffers a great injustice and returns for revenge wearing a mask of nobility. V's favourite film, which he shows to Evey is "Count of Monte Cristo.

A similar theme is used in Ben Hur, when Judah Ben Hur is sent into slavery by his Roman friend Messala and later returns for revenge in the garments of Roman privilege.

However, Vendetta is so poorly structured, you have no real feeling of the injustice done to V. Just a few nasty looking guys doing one or two nasty things in flashback. So, when V comes to execute his nemesis', who cares? No tension and resolution.

Like a bad restaurant that has poor service and sloppily prepared dishes, this movie needs to close down for renovations. Maybe some rewriting, reshoots and re-editing might make it better. The old studio bosses would never be this sloppy! Just watch some old Classic Hollywood movies to see real storytelling!

Not totally bad, but not good. Some good sequences. The collectible cup was better!
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The movie was not about the revenge, but about political change and fight against repression. The revenge story was just a catalyst for that. I suggest you watch the movie again, and look at it not merely as a story about "revenge". Seeing it that way is, now using your own word, "simplistic".
 
SPZ said:
The movie was not about the revenge, but about political change and fight against repression. .
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ven·det·ta P Pronunciation Key (vn-dt)
n.
A feud between two families or clans that arises out of a slaying and is perpetuated by retaliatory acts of revenge; a blood feud.
A bitter, destructive feud.

Yes, it was about political change & a fight against repression, however personal revenge was a key part of it. In real life, destroying government buildings and knocking off leaders may just bring more repression and political change for the worse! Of course it's only a movie!!
 
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jleo said:
ven·det·ta P Pronunciation Key (vn-dt)
n.
A feud between two families or clans that arises out of a slaying and is perpetuated by retaliatory acts of revenge; a blood feud.
A bitter, destructive feud.

Yes, it was about political change & a fight against repression, however personal revenge was a key part of it. In real life, destroying government buildings and knocking off leaders may just bring more repression and political change for the worse! Of course it's only a movie!!
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Well, "Silence of the Lambs" is really not about "Silent Lambs", is it? Or "The Big Fish" is not just a story about a "Big Fish", is it?
 
i got the 2 disc dvd edition of V For Vendetta on tuesday. i've watched the film and the bonus features. its got a lot of cool features on it... the only problem is that it has NO commentary. another feature i thought was cool was the SNL Digital Short of Portman rapping. good stuff right there. its worth getting the dvd even without commentary, it makes up for it with all the behind the scenes and such.
 
I just picked up this best buy exclusive set which came wtih the 2-disc dvd, four mini-posters and a mini replica of the mask he wears. Pretty cool stuff!
 
Saw this last night. Really liked it. Didn't care too much for the very obvious political parallels they were throwing at us, but that's Hollywood.

I never saw the graphic novel, but I'm gonna pick it up now.
 
Dredging up an old thread here...

I've now watched this film several times (obviously, I like it a lot) although I've never read the graphic novel, or for that matter, any graphic novel aside from comic books when I was a kid. At my age now, I watch very few movies twice, let alone 4 or 5 times (so far) as I have this one. In my youth (and for a few years thereafter) I'd watch favorites 20-30 times ("Blade Runner", "The Empire Strikes Back" and a handful of others), but aside from a very few, like "Enemy Of The State", repeat viewings are a thing of the past for me.

I'm finding more things to like each time I see "V", and at the moment am finding myself particularly impressed with the editing, although there are many, many things to like about this film. The fact that Hugo Weaving can pull off the performance he does, both physically and verbally (dubbed in of course), while wearing a grin-mask the *entire time* is quite an accomplishment in itself.

But back to the editing...wow. Incredible pacing, brilliant uses of b-roll, and other wonderfully inventively juxtaposed shots, the way many scenes are cut to other logically unrelated (but emotionally evocative) events and back...I'm jazzed by this film all over again, and for new reasons. It doesn't fail to entertain me for even a moment. That, among other things, defines great editing to me.

Just thought I'd throw this out to the crowd here. Comments are welcome.
 
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