F35: URGENT - Help! 12-bit DPX to Odyssey 7Q

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Hi Guys,

I need to run some tests tomorrow comparing Redcode to 12-bit DPX from the F35. When I set the 7Q to 4:4:4 ProRes recording it's detecting the 12-bit output from the camera. However, when I switch to .DPX it goes back to 10-bit, and I can't find any way to get it into the higher bitrate mode with .DPX.

This is for some grading and VFX heavy material, so I need both the 12-bits and the uncompressed recording, so any help would be MUCH appreciated!

I must be missing a setting somewhere in the chain, but I just can't find it.

Cheers,

Mark
 
Nevermind, I found Videovation's explanation of how to access the Maintenance Menu (something I couldn't find ANYWHERE in the bloody camera manual), and it was easy to change from there.

Thanks Video! I owe you a beer :)
 
Fair point. Here's James' very helpful explanation of the process:


Viddovation said:
To get access to the Service menu, you need to instruct the camera to unlock all VF menus. The standard method to unlock the Top Menu and Diagnosis menu is not enough here.

With the camera on, and fully booted, click the VF Menu button to close the menu and display. With them close, you will push and hold all three assignable buttons (exclude the toggle #4). This will execute whatever those toggles are programmed to do, but ignore that. With the assign buttons still held down, press and also hold down the rotary encoder. With all of these buttons pressed and held down, tap the VF Menu button twice. This should bring you to the Top Menu with the SERVICE menu listed at the very bottom.

One of the Service menu pages will let you read the camera hours. It stores both a total hours for the camera, and a second resettable value (which you can use like the trip meter in a car... useful for rentals perhaps).

Other Service menu pages include RPN fix and Firmware. Another page allows for inverting and mirroring viewfinder images.

The Service menu remains available until the camera is powered off.
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Another three hands needed menu. Why do they hide stuff like this on cameras of this level? This isn't used by consumers who could render the camera in-op, this is used by professionals who should not have their hands tied, and should know better than to fool with things they know nothing about. All the manufacturers do this, not just picking on Sony here.

I have to question what the exact downsides are for the menu choice you flipped. Since it seems somewhat common to need this, it should be on a regular user level menu. I'm guessing it draws more power and produces more heat. Maybe it affects the recording too, but I doubt it.
 
I don't get it either, neither the button ballet to access it, or how deeply they've buried any explanation in the camera manual of how to access it.

Perhaps an early ploy by the DIT's Union to keep their members working? :p
 
No, it comes directly from the Japanese engineers, they have funny viewpoints on what they think operators could possibly grasp, even at the top level of equipment. I'd love to manage their department and force them to put some of this at a top level menu.
 
Sony and Panasonic, had this service menu hidden in the older Sony F900, and Panasonic Varicam, and HDX900. I was once talked through on the phone via an Ablecine tech, how to take out a hot pixel on an HDX900! that saved the trip.

Broatch Berry
Venice CA

Screaming Dime
 
Stuff like hot pixel masking should be right up front with a nice description on how to perform it. You guys are pros, you know more than the average news shooter. Stuff like this isn't hard with a decent guide to walk you through it. When faced with thousands of dollars worth of crew standing around, you should be able to pull out a little book of instructions and fix little things like that. Not punt to a back up camera and hope your PA can get the "broken" one from and back to the set for tomorrow.

On gear of this level it is just stupid!
 
B.Berry said:
Sony and Panasonic, had this service menu hidden in the older Sony F900, and Panasonic Varicam, and HDX900. I was once talked through on the phone via an Ablecine tech, how to take out a hot pixel on an HDX900! that saved the trip.

Broatch Berry
Venice CA

Screaming Dime
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From my years formerly at AbelCine, you have no idea how often I was on the other end of such phone calls.
 
I was dealing with the LA branch, on another subject when dealing with my old Nanoflash, Dan Keaton was amazing!

Broatch Berry
Venice CA

Screaming Dime
 
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