Turning to the darkside..... ¤(pics for your pleasure)¤

reflex

reflex

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Well I've decided that I'm turning to the darkside... me and my partner in crime are going to shoot on film from now on. ( The bigger projects anyway. i.e. stuff over 30 minutes or so... ) I've not been really exposed too much to film so I really want to dive into it and go that route. Is is much more expensive to shoot that way but we the connections and resources available to make it much cheaper for us. I really like this message board; the people seem very eager to help and have LOTS of great info for us beginners ( and experts in some cases ) :thumbsup: :)

Since I don't see too many grabs and clips posted in this area I thought Id just share a bunch from a year or so ago. This was a project that my buddy had written and was directing. It ended up to be about 20 minnutes long. The end of next month we are going to pick it back up and add much more to it, hopefully to make it about 40 minutes or so. I'll post a few grabs from the dailies for you guys to check out. These haven't been altered in anyway - just developed and transferred. Some of the grabs have a bit of grain in them, just becuase we were using mixed film stock and different speeds of film. More of a learning experience.

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I'll also post a short clip of some of the shots. Quicktime seems to washout some of the colors a bit but it's not like these were color corrected or anything.
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I can't wait to start on some of these other projects in the works...Hopefully somethng really great will come out of it.

Cheers.

Chris
 
WOW ! looks very good, when you make the CC will be amazing.
the movie looks very professional fim.
Only one question what kind of film is? 16 mm.? kodak-fuji? what camera you used for this shooting?

Ahh! i´m agree with you. this section has few pics and videos... great for you!

Congrats
 
avr said:
WOW ! looks very good, when you make the CC will be amazing.
the movie looks very professional fim.
Only one question what kind of film is? 16 mm.? kodak-fuji? what camera you used for this shooting?

Ahh! i´m agree with you. this section has few pics and videos... great for you!

Congrats
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Thanks for the comments.:thumbup: Was 16mm film and I believe it was Kodak. It was a Bolex camera hand wound motor, non sync. We have a new camera new I believe it's a Bolex Rex -2 it has it's own motor but it's not crystal sync. I dont' know how we will be doing sound recording since it's a bit noisy. We'll have to figure something out.
 
NICE! I love how film looks....I have a Bolex 16mm that I'm hoping to shoot with as soon as I can afford it. That stuff can get expensive.

Thanks for posting...it's nice to see that film is still alive and kicking...and that you got such good results with a hand-wound Bolex (same as mine).
 
reflex said:
a Bolex Rex -2 it has it's own motor but it's not crystal sync. I dont' know how we will be doing sound recording since it's a bit noisy. We'll have to figure something out.
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Sync the sound can be complicated but this is a war movie and I think that trere isn´t much dialogue and don´t worry... the combat scenes are very noisy :)


I have corrected this pic. I add more contrast (color curves) and some color corection and desaturate. I love this film look.

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Yeah I like a higher contrast look myself. Nice job. The 20 minute version of this was desaturated so there was only about 9% color to the war scenes. Looked pretty good. We are planning to shoot more for it to make it longer next month. Also we plan to shoot some other films... probabaly between 30 min - 60 min long.

I have always known the digital way of doing things so it's a lot different to work with this chemical process instead of an electronic one. I'm 27 and figure it's about time to get back to the original way of doing things and see what I can create.

The main problem is because we're gonna use a bolex which isn't crystal sync :( lol , and according to Mr. Barry Green lol, it's a royal pain in the ass. So we are gonna have to figure out what to do about sound. I'm afraid well have to ADR everything and basically assemble the sound track scene by scene. But I've always enjoyed that kind of work ( post audio ) so a fun challenge nonetheless.

I'm up for it.
 
So, the obvious question now is, "How do I make my film look more like video? How can I get that video look for the film I shoot?" :grin:

Just kidding, those are really nice! Great job! Film has such a naturally beautiful quality that still can't be 100% captured by even the best video camera.

Lookin' forward to some clips from this.

Larry
 
Larry R said:
So, the obvious question now is, "How do I make my film look more like video? How can I get that video look for the film I shoot?" :grin:
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Exactly!! lol I was asking that a few months ago.. I wanted to achieve that ' The Ring ' look to something else. But it we need anything to loook like video I'll just shoot it with my Sony. hahah. Even though there are a lot of SD Sony haters on here I like my VX2100. I has and will serve me well. I just wanna do it old school now. :thumbsup:

Thanks for the comments. As soon as I have stuff to post I will.

-Chris
 
Hey Reflex, good job, the action looks good, a little CC should bring it together. If your bolex has an adjustable shutter, which I think the rex 2's have, you might try closing it down a bit to give less light to achieve the stacato "Saving Private Ryan" look, just compensate by opening up the iris. Also, if you are brave, remove the coating on the lens, they also did this for the movie. Its very rewarding shooting on film and making it look good, isn't it.
 
Man, I really dig WW2 movies. Heck even most of the video games. Those captures look really sweet. I especially like the two SS on the MG and the guy screaming next to the tank (it's a tank right?). :thumbsup:
I did the effects on my buddies WW2 short which was shot completely in the frigid nasty winter... you were smart enough to avoid that. I can understand how miserable the battle of the bulge must have been.
I am curious how much of that is authentic equipment and how much is replica?

The compression isn't the best but hopefully you guys get the idea.
This was shot on, I believe, an Arri S with Kodak 200.
 
I really like the dark side(film) I like digital too, but as a rookie filmmaker(less than 5 years) I really do believe that in order to create the future, you must study the past. Film is an incredible learning tool and I embrace it wholly. Anybody here from Oklahoma?

That's it baby, when you got it, flaunt it.

Mel Brooks
 
I liked the captures and clip, Reflex. I never get tired of good WW2 films. Shorts or features. Love 'em. Haven't seen too many Korean War shorts though. Oh well.

Bentrandom, I dig your clip too. About 3/4 of the way through, the clip stops and won't play any further. But I liked what I saw. Good stuff. Very well shot.

Film rocks. It's just so darn expensive...
 
I just watched 'the gi' and thought it was really cool. a new spin on things. The compression wouldn't let me see the full quality of it but still great to watch nonetheless. Good job.
 
MDKfilms said:
Hey Reflex, good job, the action looks good, a little CC should bring it together. If your bolex has an adjustable shutter, which I think the rex 2's have, you might try closing it down a bit to give less light to achieve the stacato "Saving Private Ryan" look, just compensate by opening up the iris. Also, if you are brave, remove the coating on the lens, they also did this for the movie. Its very rewarding shooting on film and making it look good, isn't it.
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I do not think that the adjustable shutter was available until the Rex 4s, I may be wrong, but check it out.

Good Stuff.
 
David G. Smith said:
I do not think that the adjustable shutter was available until the Rex 4s, I may be wrong, but check it out.

Good Stuff.
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We ( a buddy and me ) checked out the camera, and we really cant tell what it is. It's a Bolex H16 but Rex 1,2,3,4 etc.. we can't tell ( maybe a 2? ) Now my mind totally went blank on the shutter but I think that it did have a shutter control. What I remember for sure is that it has 12,15,24,32,64 fps... The camera runs smooth, no rust at all, the gate it not loose or jittery, over all the camera is in great shape. The previous owner took excellent care of it. Plus it was a complete kit. metal case, attachments, the motor ( if you dont wanna use it wind up ) some lens cleaning brushes, ND/ correction filters, all the original manuals, tripod, etc..... all for 300 bucks. Not a bad deal. We should be shootin the rest of the above stuff this next month. :)
 
reflex said:
The previous owner took excellent care of it. Plus it was a complete kit. metal case, attachments, the motor ( if you dont wanna use it wind up ) some lens cleaning brushes, ND/ correction filters, all the original manuals, tripod, etc..... all for 300 bucks. Not a bad deal. We should be shootin the rest of the above stuff this next month. :)
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300 $ ... GREAT PURCHASE. Good luck in the next shooting.
 
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