Turning Point - trailer

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Might I ask what the other 90% was shot with.

It looks alright... odd framing in the shot at the beginning...

What did you use for audio?
 
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It was letterbox.

The other 10% was shot with a GL1 in frame mode.


The audio was dubbed with a SGM-2x and a ME-66.

;) The film was upgraded as it was shot.
 
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Oops, I meant, It was letterboxed in post.
 
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I find it strange that you would switch cameras during shooting. The optics and quality of each of the cameras is different, and would thus make the visuals inconsistant.

I thought the audio was a little off. It being dubbed explains it.
 
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Well. I had the opportunity to upgrade to the DVX from the GL1. Thus, we decided to change the production camera. It's not really that huge of a difference in the scope of things (both are low end SD cameras). Unfortunately I had to leave before we could reshoot that last 10%.
 
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For those who can't see it, download Windows Media 9.
 
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i have wm9. i dont believe it has anything to do with having the wm9 player.. the link is bad. the url is not found.
 
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Ok, this time the link worked.

I can't say I was very impressed with the cinematography; it wasn't *bad* in my opinion, just nothing that spectacular. It has its moments, though. I liked a lot of the telephoto close ups, when you had more side lighting - it makes the picture look more 3D (and then the shallow depth of field makes it look more film like, too :P ). A lot of what you had, though, looked relatively flat, and didn't show off the DVX to its full potential.

And what's up with the story? Then again thats not the DVXs fault...
 
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It's kinda hard to get the full story just from the trailer don't you think? There is more to it.

As for the cinematography, it's hard when there is a budget of absolutely nothing, with no one around (within a few hundred miles) with the resources to help.

We tweaked the camera best we could to get a picture that was usable without lighting in most shots.
 
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It's kinda hard to get the full story just from the trailer don't you think? There is more to it.
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Fair enough...I was merely talking about what *I* thought of what the story was from the trailer. But you're right...I very well could have been mistaken!

As for the cinematography, it's hard when there is a budget of absolutely nothing, with no one around (within a few hundred miles) with the resources to help.
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Man, do I ever know how you feel. I know what it's like having no budget (hell, I spent all my money on MY dvx, and have nothing left for my film either, I know where you're coming from). The fact is, though, that regardless of the situation, I gave my thoughts on what the *product* was. So im not judging your skills as a *cinematographer*...only what I thought of this piece of *cinematography*. You very well could be as good as Conrad Hall, and the money's just screwing you over. Sorry if you took my critisism personally, it wasn't meant that way.
 
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...after going to the main site and finding the links to the trailer, i finally was able to watch this. ive watched it a few times now.

i liked the music.

the concept was intruiging, although the storyline was not really clear through the trailer. ..i know its just a trailer, but if anyone watches any hollywood film trailer made using even less running time, they know pretty much exactly what the film is going to be about. , or at least have a pretty good idea.

i too liked the medium close ups, and close ups,they were great..very filmic. but the wide shots seemed to throw that whole cinematic feel out the window. i have to say the cinematograpy only lacked in the wide shots. im not just saying it sucked or what-not, im saying that the wide shots (which constitued a moderate amount of the content) lost the intimate feeling that the few closeups brought, and what drew me into the trailer. just looked to videoish from the lighting and composition in the wide. ..please dont blame budget for this, framing and composition and usage of natural lighting can all be done with excellence regardless of how much money you have in your pocket at the time. ..again im not a mean guy with some vengance to tell people they smell bad or somthing, im just being honest, and letting you know what i think you need to work on.. im not digging for stuff to rag on, it was just really obvios. we all need to work on stuff in the craft, and i would expect that if i posted somthing that people would give me their honest opinion good or bad about it.but bah... enough of me trying to explain my good intentions.

i thought it seemed like a pretty cool idea..whatever it is . and again id like to see the film. good job, and i was actually overall impressed, and good luck with the film :)
 
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Not to parrot IAL's take, I have to agree.

There were some shots I really liked. Don't let a llack of resources or being in the middle of no where be a burden. There are a ton of films that are centrally located in the middle of no where. Its all in how you potray it.

I liked many of the shots in this although on my computer screen, it seemed to be lacking in lighting (no pop) or lighted incorrectly.

I like what I see for the most part. I see effort for one! Is this a student film? I see a patern in so many trailers, films, etc at our level in that the cast are usally in high school or near. I think casting the right people in the right roles is so important.

Not exactly sure either what this about. It would be nice to know. Anyway, good luck with this!
 
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..ive noticed that same pattern john.. i think that its just harder to find adults willing to work for no or little money. younger people still believe that they can actually become somthing through a production such as this. which is true. your dead on about casting though. very important in dee ddididilly doo..
 
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It is harder to find adults when you're a student film maker that's true, but still no excuse.

The trick is to network with as many people as possible. Teachers are pretty supportive of this kinda thing as well.

I find though, once you get out of highschool, you can start finding actors who are willing to work on deferral or for free just to get some exposure and add something to their resumes.

I'd say if you're 18 or older, you can find enough adults to be in films, or at least friends who look older.
 
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The trick is to network with as many people as possible. Teachers are pretty supportive of this kinda thing as well.
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That is so true.  If you're in high school (or keep in touch with people from your high school) many drama teachers love to be in student films.  I've gotten some of the best performances from them; they know what they're doing (usually) and they have a presence that you can't get without having real adults.  
It'll make your stuff look just that much more professional.
 
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