Tricks to shoot good 24p with the HVX200

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thefilmaddict

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In the past I've always shot interlaced video. In the post process I add film look. The type of filmlook I use is not pull down, but involves deinterlacing and grain and color correction. I guess this film look gives you sort of a 30p look. Now that I have a HVX200 (it's on the way -- I hope!), I want to shoot 24p (because I want the video to look more like film and in case I ever do something good enough to transfer to film). I've seen 24p footage and slow moving shots (slow camera moves) look great, but quick moves look blurry. I've been told when shooting in 24p you have to do slower moves to keep the image from looking bad. Here's what I don't get, 35MM Film is 24p and I watch movies all the time that have fast moving shots in them that look decent. How do the pros accomplish this? Can I accomplish this with the HVX200?
 
You're confusing characteristics of the framerate with shutter speed. The reason you get motion blur is not because of shooting at 24fps. It's because you have a slower shutter speed. As for framerate, when shooting 24p you should realise that you are shooting less frames than if you were shooting 30 or 60fps resulting in a more strobe-like effect. But hey, your brain is telling it's more film-like. There are several discussions already here in the form about this topic.
 
So adjusting the shutter speed should get rid of blurry moves? I guess this would take strong lighting in an interior shot. Brightly lit shots outdoors should be fine.
 
Here's what I don't get, 35MM Film is 24p and I watch movies all the time that have fast moving shots in them that look decent. How do the pros accomplish this?
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Becuase they are focusing on something

Sound's like you have too much truck coming

Do not adjust the shutter speed unless you specifically are going for a SPR/28 Days look. Shoot whatever the default is. Any other Shutter Speed changes should be an artistic or technical decision

A film camera (16 or 35mm) will do the same thing when making quick pans; the 24fps / 24p is going to have the same characteristics. If making a quick pan with not focusing on any subject matter you wil see blur and staccato. If making that same pan while tracking a runner, a car or any other subject matter you will see the subject stay in focus (assuming you are focused!) crystal as clear.

Will a higher shutter reduce blur? Well, yes and no. It will capture the action at more precise intervals but will look like a stepping effect. Just ensure you are on your subject matter and you'll be fine.


Yes; even the pro's using the big ginormous Arri must obey the rules when making pans. Any violation of these guidelines again are technically or artistically made decisions.
 
I think I know what you are talking about. For instance, in Once Upon A Time In Mexico, when the camera follows Depp through the kitchen you get the "strobe" look. I think the only way to avoid that will be adjusting shutter or in some cases, working with lighting/color correction. I have shot a couple features with the F900 and 99% of the films look indistinguishable from 35mm except for a couple quick camera moves where you get the "video strobe" look.

This will not happen on film the same way oviously as it is a different medium, but it is also apparent several times in Collateral.
 
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