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pauli

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I've just got a gh1 and I'm looking for a fast wide angle lens. I'm thinking of buying the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8. If i get it should I buy nikon or canon fit? will I be able to manually set the aperture? and what adapter should I buy?

thanks for any help :)
 
Nikon mount has the aperture ring. Not sure about Canon, I didn't think so.
I'm looking at that lens too. The shots I'm seeing from it are very nice indeed...There are plenty of adapters out there for Nikon F mounts. People here have had success with a supplier in Poland cielo7 or something is his E-Bay store name...I'm sure someone will chime in and clarify.
 
Neither mount will let you adjust the aperture on the GH1 either electronically or otherwise, as it doesn't have a manual ring (only focus and zoom).

(Edit: SonicStates... I can't see the aperture ring on any pics... are you sure the Nikon version has one? Front ring is for focus, back one for zoom - has 11-16 on it).

I don't see this as a problem, but recommend a Vari ND filter to adjust exposure in bright light without having to adjust the shutter speed to stupidly high levels.
 
Tokina 11-16 f2.8 is the dream lens for the GH1 but its DX.
As far as I know the only person who has it working on the GH1 is upshot
but no other info other than this teasing pic
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=1724410#post1724410

I'm emailing ppl and working on my own solution, as soon as I have something solid I will post.

EDIT: there are some other solutions out there all around the $300+ mark
Novoflex MFT/NIK
16-9inc.com has the mod for the lens
Zoerk I think has a Canon adapter that might work with a MFT to EOS
 
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I'm guessing the Canon mount will fit with the GH1 EFS adapter from eBay.

In the pic of the Nikon one, what is the screw driver in the adapter hole for? Not exactly practical!
 
commanderspike said:
Neither mount will let you adjust the aperture on the GH1 either electronically or otherwise, as it doesn't have a manual ring (only focus and zoom).

(Edit: SonicStates... I can't see the aperture ring on any pics... are you sure the Nikon version has one? Front ring is for focus, back one for zoom - has 11-16 on it).
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Nah man you're right. In the dx series all aperture control is done internally, my bad.
I believe Kholi is running with a Tokina 11-16...this just might be where "the q-tip method" comes in handy.
 
If you can settle for a slower lens, the Oly 9-18 is sweet, although it is f4-f5.6. It's quite cost effective and plays nicely with the GH1. Typically you're not going to get much DOF with an ultra wide anyway, so maybe bump your ISO up a bit to compensate for the slower aperture.

Cheers,
 
simonclivehughes said:
If you can settle for a slower lens, the Oly 9-18 is sweet, although it is f4-f5.6. It's quite cost effective and plays nicely with the GH1. Typically you're not going to get much DOF with an ultra wide anyway, so maybe bump your ISO up a bit to compensate for the slower aperture.

Cheers,
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Kit lens if f4 at 14mm so not much is gained there.

SonicStates said:
... "the q-tip method" comes in handy.
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can you elaborate?
 
Isn't the point of buying an f/2.8 lens to use it at f/2.8 all the time anyway? :P

Actually I'm not entirely joking...if I had one I'd probably be using it wide open most of the time, you probably won't be getting shallow DOF anyway with a lens that wide, so enjoy the great low-light performance and use NDs during the day.

More seriously: $600 is too much to spend on a lens you can't easily adjust aperture on. :(
Too bad fast primes that are that wide are very very expensive usually.
 
I have a 10-20mm Canon EFS which I can't change the aperture on from F3.5. Is it a big deal? NOOO!

Just get the Canon version and slap a Vari ND filter on the front. Changing the aperture on such a wide lens is a bit of a none issue, because as Ben pointed out, DOF is very deep anyway on such a wide field of view.
 
Just break a Q-Tip in pieces or fold some paper and shove it in the aperture ring. It won't hurt anything, or hasn't in my experience doing it for years now with this lens or any of the others.

Nikon mount Tokina doesn't have aperture ring. The lens is actually being rehoused for PL mount, that's how bad-ass it is. 600 is dirt cheap for an ultra wide angle like the 11-16 tokina considering distortion control, speed (duh) and the ability to resolve detail like it does. It probably shouldn't even exist for so cheap, to be honest, and was even cheaper until people began to discover how incredible it was.

I mean, come on, an 11mm with minimal distortion? That's too sick.
 
Kholi said:
Just break a Q-Tip in pieces or fold some paper and shove it in the aperture ring. It won't hurt anything, or hasn't in my experience doing it for years now with this lens or any of the others.

Nikon mount Tokina doesn't have aperture ring. The lens is actually being rehoused for PL mount, that's how bad-ass it is. 600 is dirt cheap for an ultra wide angle like the 11-16 tokina considering distortion control, speed (duh) and the ability to resolve detail like it does. It probably shouldn't even exist for so cheap, to be honest, and was even cheaper until people began to discover how incredible it was.

I mean, come on, an 11mm with minimal distortion? That's too sick.
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yeh Ruby Lens (rehoused tokina) with the Hot Rod PL is one way! expensive tho!

Hey I'm sure you read my post (see below) do you have any Kholi insights on what that adapter is? Looks like Underdahls work but I emailed doug and it isn't his.

J Davis said:
Tokina 11-16 f2.8 is the dream lens for the GH1 but its DX.
As far as I know the only person who has it working on the GH1 is upshot
but no other info other than this teasing pic
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=1724410#post1724410
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It looks like a random hackjob, to me, that works. And why not? You only have to grab a spare nikon mount, drill a screw through the surface at the right angle so that when you twist the screw it manually moves the pin downward. That's exactly how the RED Nikon Mount works.

I'm just not smart enough to actually figure out which angle to drill the hole without going through several NIkon adapters.

You would have to get one of the one-piece M4/3 to NIkon adapters or something similar to that. But it shouldn't be too hard.
 
I had thought about all that with my Nikon adapter but the angle and the precision is what will make or break it. Plus you would want the hole tapped with a thread.
And the hole would not want to interfere with the groove already in the adapter.

Actually I emailed Doug Underdahl to see if he woud be interested in building one for micro four thirds but thats a negative. I then got in contact with ceico7 in Poland about this and I showed him the underdahl video. Ceico7 said he is going to try and sort something out for the GH1. As I mentioned before, nothing solid yet, will post if I hear anything.
 
Don't wait for these guys to do it for you. If I had the time I would, but I'm always stuck in the office or on set (P.S. Black and White is whoa-buddy-awesome).

Just shoot a message to someone on Ebay, beg them for a discount on three Nikon Adapters that look like they fit the bill and start tappin' em.

You only need to start the hole with a tiny drill bit, then finish it with a screw so that it remains tapped. Then, once you have it precise, solder something onto the end so that it won't damage anything or scratch. Aka, make it round or flat instead of a point.

You could afford to tap a few Nikon Mounts about three times (errors) before you really mess it up. In fact, you may only need two identical ones and just ruin the first one to find the right way to do it. Then, use your final result on the second one and you've got it.
 
Ben_B said:
I'm a little confused on the Q-Tip aperture thing? Elaborate?
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I think its using the stem from the Q-tip cut to the correct length and wedged in to keep the metal flange pushed all the way around. This enables the aperture to stay open. The risk is that if it got dislodged it can fall onto your sensor.
Without a DX lens near me or a Q-tip I can only infer but what I just said would seem logical.

Kholi said:
Don't wait for these guys to do it for you. If I had the time I would, but I'm always stuck in the office or on set (P.S. Black and White is whoa-buddy-awesome).

Just shoot a message to someone on Ebay, beg them for a discount on three Nikon Adapters that look like they fit the bill and start tappin' em.

You only need to start the hole with a tiny drill bit, then finish it with a screw so that it remains tapped. Then, once you have it precise, solder something onto the end so that it won't damage anything or scratch. Aka, make it round or flat instead of a point.

You could afford to tap a few Nikon Mounts about three times (errors) before you really mess it up. In fact, you may only need two identical ones and just ruin the first one to find the right way to do it. Then, use your final result on the second one and you've got it.
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At around $80 a pop per adapter I think I better wait. Maximum respect for those that DIY this. I'm probably gonna Q-tip it for a while and wait and see if ceico7 pulls thru.
 
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