To all the Guerilla 35 makers!

Slimothy

Slimothy

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I've seen a few guerilla 35s being made by members of dvxuser (redrock), and I know alot of people expressed interest in getting their hands on one (including myself), but I haven't heard of anyone actually making one and selling it. Is anybody selling their guerilla mini 35? I'd be very interested. Tim.
 
Ahhh, Tim. A couple of interesting things have happened since you may have last visited. Redrock began taken orders on the Micro35 adapter (June 2005) and completely sold out of the first and second batches. The ordering page is down until they are re-stocked which will be in a month or two, I believe. Guerilla35 is a different product.

www.micro35.com
www.guerilla35.com
 
Looks like I missed the boat! Dammit. Do you know how much they ran for, and does anyone have any reviews of them? BTW: I was born in Indianapolis. How's the weather?
 
Oh ok. Is anybody else making them do you know? I saw the g35 website. But those aren't done yet either. Also, do you know if the guerilla 35s are easy to use/mount/focus etc? Thanks so much and good luck w/ the move.
 
Focus is fine, so you had better pony up with a hi res monitor. I got burned using a lo-res LCD "field monitor". Came away with lots of almost-sharp images. Speaking of monitors, with the guerrilla35, your images are captured without the aid of a 2nd prism. Flip-flop your clips in post, or swallow some pride and film with YOUR CAMERA UPSIDE DOWN.
 
bikefilms said:
There's nothing "guerilla" about an 850$ price tag.
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You usually get what you pay for. There has been a tremendous effort towards a contraption that will deliver QUALITY image. There are some price tags too. If one's work does not PAY, one's financial effort is not justified. There may be other options other than G35 and micro35... but not for wannabe, for "I am" and "I need it now" because can recover my investment NOW through PAID WORK.(just my 2c on the issue)
bikefilms said:
Make one for under 100$.
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When some of the parts ALONE sum up to US $350 is rather difficult to deliver QUALITY that one can use and MAKE MONEY WITH for that price tag. You make one, and sell it for $500 (not 100) and you'll be rich.
 
We are back taking orders now (have been since mid-July).

bikefilms said:
There's nothing "gurilla" about an 850$ price tag. Make one for under 100$. La Resistance!
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The achromat alone (which we provide as part of our bundle) has a comparable at Century Optics that sells for $260.

The $850 bundle includes an 18" 15mm rod support system (which is typically $300-400 for a comparable system).

We are also including a free copy of our Revolution software-based field monitor.

Compare that with the $10,000 mini35.

I think you may come around to believing that we *are* La Resistance!
 
bvalente of Redrock,

No doubt you have something! You are on the forefront of this shift for an affordable 35mm adapter package. Comparably, now, you guys have a really great product.

But,

A. For dvxusers with a quest for a cinema quality, "filmout capable" image, Redrock is the option.

B. For myself, who is questing for an "SD quality" image for TV, there are more "micro" budget avenues. I have a fun, great, working adaptor (with rails) that cost under 100$ before lenses. Is not miniDV more or less the lowest resolution medium for moving image capture? We are starting out with a handicap.

C. P+s Tecknic's mini35 is way overpriced at 10,000$. They'll flop if they don't evolve. Redrock, your move!
 
Here is an interesting consideration... Can you counterblance your tripod with your 35mm adapter?
... You can with Redrock's model...
 
>Here is an interesting consideration... Can you counterblance your tripod with your 35mm >adapter?
>... You can with Redrock's model...

Yeah, I actually mounted it to a Glidecam a few weeks ago. Those stabilizers are so persnickety. If you want to try it, make your base plate extend out towards the nose. This will allow the steaycam/ glidecam to be mounted closer to the camera's center of mass.

You got it, counterbalance is really key.
 
bikefilms said:
bvalente of Redrock,

No doubt you have something! You are on the forefront of this shift for an affordable 35mm adapter package. Comparably, now, you guys have a really great product.

But,

A. For dvxusers with a quest for a cinema quality, "filmout capable" image, Redrock is the option.

B. For myself, who is questing for an "SD quality" image for TV, there are more "micro" budget avenues. I have a fun, great, working adaptor (with rails) that cost under 100$ before lenses. Is not miniDV more or less the lowest resolution medium for moving image capture? We are starting out with a handicap.
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bikefilms -

Thanks for the opportunity to wax eloquently :)

I agree there are ways for one person to get lots of things for almost no $$ given enough inventiveness, time, and perserverence. In fact, we still offer a DIY Guide of our adapter for $45, which people have successfully built and use, which can be built in total for less than $100. Sounds like that may meet the needs of what you describe.

But when it comes to doing it for thousands of people, the expectation placed on us is much higher and much more diverse. We don't think of ourselves as "film out only", nor are many of our customers planning film out. All of our micro35 customers are looking for a great quality product that does what it's supposed to do without costing a zillion dollars.

This reflects our mission statement; "a company committed to bringing cinema-quality accessories to market at revolutionary prices." Our mission is not to get the lowest possible cost at any quality, it's two parts: 1. cinema quality, and 2. revolutionary prices. It's not too difficult to find inexpensive products that are poorly made and don't last. It is also not hard to find incredibly well made products for the price of a home. Our aim is simply to get the best balance of price and quality, keeping in mind we all are (or are aspiring) indie filmmakers, with indie filmmaker budgets.

Hope that helps
 
Adam -

I have spoken with Jan and she's seen our adapter in action. We believe the HVX should work fine with our adapter with an 82mm step ring, but we haven't yet tested it (if you know someone who has one, let us know :) )
 
bikefilms said:
Focus is fine, so you had better pony up with a hi res monitor. I got burned using a lo-res LCD "field monitor". Came away with lots of almost-sharp images.
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What is the resolution of the LCD monitor you got burnt on?
 
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