to all the 30p haters

[drdimento]

Amen. ... and add to that the 35mm adapters and lenses. Maybe they've got this all planned out for the next couple years. . . .

Thanks and I think that "planned out" part is a right on. I actually think that some have the right solution for the "right price" but why give 'em what they want when you can take them through a couple generations of purchases to get there.

You look a the Sony Z7 . . wow, it has it all even an external solid state drive PLUS back up tape and then removable and nikon, canon, etc. adaptable lenses and even slo mo on tape. However, where's that frame variable frame rate that could be there and simplicity in camera set up to avoid complications, let alone balance and ease of removing the battery without having to remove the solid state drive to get to the battery compartment? Why?

How about the "nexgen" as Avid is calling while slowly but surely dropping all the other models forcing one to move forward or lose their way in the dust.

What shocks me is that JVC seems to have just stepped off a ledge OR is silently building the "nexgen" that will be WHAT WE REALLY WANT :thumbup:

 

[danap]

I like the look of the D90. Looks quite nice. A little grainy though in dark scenes.
I think the 5D actually looks too natural, and that's the problem. It looks too real, less like film. Very sharp as well. Sharpness can be altered though, lack of sharpness can't be. Colours can be altered as well.

Well, then you can twist, degrade, deform, reconfigure the colours of 5D footage with lot more degrees of freedom than with footage originating from the D90.

Moreover, what looks "natural" is not a truth given for eternity, "natural" is definitely not the analogue reproduction of light wave length out there. "Natural looking colours" may be more my personal mental, cultural, sectarian, cognitive, emotional, aesthetic construction of my desire of the colour being natural. "Natural" means then "does something to me" or "reminds me of some early archetypal memories". Most of the time "really natural colours and luminance" convey an utterly depressing impression.

There's nothing less natural in the 5D than in the D90. But there is awfully more details, colour depth, latitude, detail etc. Of course I am discussing balanced colour and light situation and do not address in this reply colour skew, pathological chroma bias, chroma noise and all the pathologies of video pictures.