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[JAMedia]

It's too developed for its own good, which is why these problems exist.

In most aspects, the USA is 50-200 years behind the developed world. In many areas it is going backwards.
To be honest, the USA is not a country so much as a lot of individuals in the same geographical location.
Though I agree that some areas are very, very different to other areas. Most of my experience is working in California. (though I have connections with Seattle and New York Also working alongside the US Navy and Army)
However, it's probably time to get back to discussing video on TikTok before we all get banned

 

[JAMedia]

As a wise man once said without knowing that the phrase was soon to be popularized by and attributed to Mark Twain, 'There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics".

That is a convenient way of ignoring reality.

 

[NorBro]

In most aspects, the USA is 50-200 years behind the developed world. In many areas it is going backwards.
To be honest, the USA is not a country so much as a lot of individuals in the same geographical location.
Though I agree that some areas are very, very different to other areas. Most of my experience is working in California. (though I have connections with Seattle and New York Also working alongside the US Navy and Army)
However, it's probably time to get back to discussing video on TikTok before we all get banned

I'm open to learning how you think or understand the USA is 50-200 years behind any "developed" world, so please do share any info if you'd like.

Because if not, I think that's a silly stretch of the imagination.

 

[DLD]

That is a convenient way of ignoring reality.

I only ignore propaganda.

 

[ahalpert]

 

[JAMedia]

I'm open to learning how you think or understand the USA is 50-200 years behind any "developed" world, so please do share any info if you'd like.

Because if not, I think that's a silly stretch of the imagination.

I worked in the USA and have dealt with it in business for the last 30 years. Your banking system is easily 2 decades behind
I showed you data but any data you don't like you say is "propaganda"
None so blind as those who will not see.

 

[ahalpert]

In most aspects, the USA is 50-200 years behind the developed world. In many areas it is going backwards.

there's no way that we're 200 years behind!

but the reality is that if you're rich, your health, longevity, and other measures of life quality are zooming ahead while for the poor they are regressing

 

[JAMedia]

More propaganda?

It has long been known that the "social healthcare" in Europe far outperforms the US systems at a fraction the cost.
Also, as noted, the US has far higher death per 100K people by firearms than any other developed country.
This is to the extent that the greatest killer of children in the USA is not traffic accidents or drugs, but firearms.
And the US is banging on about classical art being dangerous to children.

No country is perfect (people in glass houses etc) but the US population seems to be completely deluded and have no self awareness.
Mind you, some parts of the UK population are getting that way. I suspect there is a correlation with use of social media.

 

[NorBro]

I worked in the USA and have dealt with it in business for the last 30 years. Your banking system is easily 2 decades behind
I showed you data but any data you don't like you say is "propaganda"
None so blind as those who will not see.

That was DLD who said that...that's 1 point off for a lack of attention to detail.

And that data doesn't prove someone's 50-200 years behind, come on...

I can show you a chart where half of Americans think people from England are goofy but it doesn't mean anything.

 

[JAMedia]

I can show you a chart where half of Americans think people from England are goofy but it doesn't mean anything.

I wasn't showing you what people "think" but facts. (and that we are not so shallow we all need to have manufactured "perfect" teeth )
On number of deaths per 100K people
On causes of death for US children.
There was on life expectancy vs healthcare costs.
The US abortion laws are going back in time, where every developed and civilized country is going the other way.
Come to that, your gun laws seem to be doing the same thing as well.
Your are and theatre seem to be heading back to 1930s Germany or modern Russia.

 

[ahalpert]

. (and that we are not so shallow we all need to have manufactured "perfect" teeth )

I'm not a proponent of body modification, but I never thought I'd hear anyone defend British dentistry

Your are and theatre seem to be heading back to 1930s Germany or modern Russia.

I think what you're referring to are state-by-state or local phenomena. Nationwide, arts and culture seem to be trending in the direction of wokeist censorship, if anything. I don't know if that means we're going backwards in time or forwards. Personally, I'm glad to see more care paid to how minorities and marginalized communities are treated. But I do think that when your ideology subsumes your themes, you often end up with soulless propaganda. Nowadays, even showing problematic characters in a negative light can be criticized because you're showing people saying and doing bad things.

It's interesting to me that Roald Dahl and others are being reprinted in bowdlerized form. People are upset by that and initially so was I. But then I looked at the changes and realized -- wow, this guy has a million mentions of how ugly and fat people are evil. That doesn't seem central to the magic of his stories and I'm fine with not indoctrinating my children to judge people by their appearance.

 

[NorBro]

I wasn't showing you what people "think" but facts. (and that we are not so shallow we all need to have manufactured "perfect" teeth )
On number of deaths per 100K people
On causes of death for US children.
There was on life expectancy vs healthcare costs.
The US abortion laws are going back in time, where every developed and civilized country is going the other way.
Come to that, your gun laws seem to be doing the same thing as well.
Your are and theatre seem to be heading back to 1930s Germany or modern Russia.

Because everything is heavily political in such a rich and large nation.

Have to consider population; any critical-thinker would understand differences may exist in a country with 330m vs. 30m.

Not all rich and large nations are the same, but you can't expect every country to operate in the same fashion. (What about China's 2-kid policy?)

Yes, everyone wants high-quality, free healthcare, everyone wants to make certain choices with certain things, but it's not how it works here, at least right now.

 

[ahalpert]

Because everything is heavily political in such a rich and large nation.

Someone asked Zuckerberg how Facebook managed to deal with the politics of so many different countries. He responded that there is no other country as bitterly divided as the US.

And it was not always this way. Our politics took a turn in the 90s with the rise of no-holds-barred win at any cost congressional machinations. It would have been unthinkable in the past for McConnell to withhold hearings on the president's Supreme Court pick, or to threaten the country with default if your budget demands aren't met.

 

[JAMedia]

Because everything is heavily political in such a rich and large nation.

Have to consider population; any critical-thinker would understand differences may exist in a country with 330m vs. 30m.

Not all rich and large nations are the same, but you can't expect every country to operate in the same fashion. (What about China's 2-kid policy?)

Yes, everyone wants high-quality, free healthcare, everyone wants to make certain choices with certain things, but it's not how it works here, at least right now.

The social health care system works well across the EU, but that is only 550 million people.
As the US varies from state to state, so it varies across the EU states, but generally it works far better than the US does.
The outcomes for the USA fall way below all other developed nations.

BTW on the gun deaths per 100K that also includes most of the EU countries. (and Switzerland has more guns per 100K people than the US does, but no gun crime)
You can keep digging the hole and ignoring reality, but it just makes you look silly.

 

[JAMedia]

I'm not a proponent of body modification, but I never thought I'd hear anyone defend British dentistry

British Dentistry, like general healthcare, was first-rate. It gives you what you need. IT is not concerned with "looks" or cosmetic stuff.
I know several Brits who had to use US healthcare whilst working in the US. They all commented that they do lots of unneeded stuff just to bump up the bill.
In the UK, you don't see many people using braces on teeth. Only "celebrities" go for teeth straightening and caps unless there is a medical requirement
That is the problem with the US, it is all image over substance.

That said, we do have a crisis in healthcare in the UK at the moment (largely due to Brexit) but the next government will sort that out.

 

[NorBro]

The social health care system works well across the EU, but that is only 550 million people.
As the US varies from state to state, so it varies across the EU states, but generally it works far better than the US does.
The outcomes for the USA fall way below all other developed nations.

BTW on the gun deaths per 100K that also includes most of the EU countries. (and Switzerland has more guns per 100K people than the US does, but no gun crime)
You can keep digging the hole and ignoring reality, but it just makes you look silly.

I'm not digging any hole, just calling your bull**** like it is.

Everyone knows me by now and my DVXuser makeup is technical speak and trying to help people with cameras and stuff.

I rarely ever get involved in these kinds of discussions, but I'll always defend the USA from your jealousy, hatred and venom.

We're going on like 5 years of this, bro.

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Probably an opportune time to tell you I've actually been archiving a collection of specific posts of yours against the USA for a while now.

It was a lot of work but I think I'm around 117 negative comments about the USA from you. Perhaps someone, a moderator, reading them all in order would wonder why these kind of posts exist on a forum like this.

[And your Switzerland statistic likely only applies to legal ownership of guns.]

 

[JAMedia]

I rarely ever get involved in these kinds of discussions, but I'll always defend the USA from your jealousy, hatred and venom.

No jealousy. I have lived and worked in the US and dealt with the US (and Canada) on a daily basis up until the end of 2022.
I also worked with US forces in several countries.
Your problem is, you don't understand when a mirror is held up to you.
You defend the indefensible and deny facts you don't like as propaganda.
Not uncommon amongst Americans.

 

[NorBro]

Stop with this, 'I lived and worked in the US.' Until you've lived here a lifetime you don't know ****.

Go live in New York City and see if you make it a year.

I only defend by asking you to elaborate after some of your remarks, PowerPoint charts aren't good enough.

Not many are stupid enough to not understand the USA has major issues, some of the worst in the world's history, but you gotta knock it off with the bashing. Go somewhere else if you want to do that.

 

[JAMedia]

Stop with this, 'I lived and worked in the US.' Until you've lived here a lifetime you don't know ****.

Go live in New York City and see if you make it a year.

I only defend by asking you to elaborate after some of your remarks, PowerPoint charts aren't good enough.

Not many are stupid enough to not understand the USA has major issues, some of the worst in the world's history, but you gotta knock it off with the bashing. Go somewhere else if you want to do that.

My point was I have lived and worked in the US and various European countries. So I can compare from first-hand experience.
No where is perfect, It is just that a lot of you Yanks seem to think you invented everything and are the best at everything when as you finally acknowledge the US does have a major issues.

 

[ahalpert]

I think this is getting heated. Maybe it's a good time to call a cease-fire