TIFF Sequence Exports not conforming to original Source length?! PLEASE HELP!

demoboy

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Now I have worked with RAW Cinema DNG files before, sequential images of course, via Premiere and AE and I've easily interpreted such footages to the frame rate of choice no problem.

NOW I'm having a problem working with Filmic Pro TIFF Exports. I have tried both AE and Premiere. All sequence settings match the original footage which the Filmic Pro footage shows as well, and aside from me choosing 24FPS too.

Now whenever I export via TIFF to 24FPS. The sequential images (now video) is always shorter than the original length. How is that possible? Shouldn't they be the same length? Whenever I export to MP4, the length is correct, but not via TIFF. What gives? Thanks fellas
 
Must be dropping frames.

Hmmm. What is the nature of TIFFs? How come it doesn't drop frames with an MP4 export? I also did a DPX Export and the DPX is exactly the same length as the TIFFs. Is it possible that the Filmic Pro Wrapper is larger than the true identity of a 24P sequence? I have a feeling it's coming from the original source. What I will try next is from the MP4 export, I want to see if it drops frames for a DPX or TIFF export. If it doesn't, then it's the fundamental original source?
 
Must be dropping frames.

Gregg,

So I exported to 30p and low and behold it's the exact same length as the original source. However, Premiere Pro recognizes the original source as 24P and even the Sequence Settings is a 24P project. So my theory is this. Are the Filmic Pro guys using 24P in a 30P wrapper?! Man I haven't heard of such stuff since back in the Panasonic P2 days.

It's so weird because when I export to MP4 via 24P its' the same length as the original source. But whenever I export an image sequence it's shorter than the original clip.
 
I haven't done enough with Filmic Pro to really comment. But the fact that the system records to one codec, and then they are serving it out through TIFF sequences, says there is a lot of room to mess it up. TIFF sequences are just about the most simple thing to work with. Every frame is encoded, the codec is pretty standardized, etc. The biggest issue is data throughput and something where a PNG sequence or jpeg sequence might be better.

I'll have to look at what my phone will give from Filmic Pro and see if I see any oddities.
 
Found out that my phone will not let me export to anything but h.264, so I can't even give it a try.

At 24.003 it should end up longer, you are getting 3 extra frames every thousand frames.
 
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