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bigmitch

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Released a music video - Through The Fire super pumped on how it turned out! Just me no other crew, 99% practicals, had one soft LED on the second verse with the artist and his wife next to him in the lobby buttt thats it! Would love to hear what you guys think. Any feedback / critiques would be super helpful! Heres a few of my favorite frames. https://vimeo.com/474862420
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Yeah, that was pretty good! Really dug your slow camera movements and pull backs. Not gonna lie, I got a bit worried when I saw the guy wearing a white shirt but the bloomy highlights were nice.

Besides available lighting and that small LED panel, what did your lens and filtration set up look like? Camera set to 450 iso and SLOG/S gamut?
 
Great job! All by yourself wow it looks great even if you had a full crew. What did you use for movements? I was engaged by it all.
 
pounge said:
Yeah, that was pretty good! Really dug your slow camera movements and pull backs. Not gonna lie, I got a bit worried when I saw the guy wearing a white shirt but the bloomy highlights were nice.

Besides available lighting and that small LED panel, what did your lens and filtration set up look like? Camera set to 450 iso and SLOG/S gamut?
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haha yea I hear ya his other option was black lol so I think white was a better choice. Tiffen IRND & black pro mist 1/2. Ange Optimo 16-40 T2.8 I really like that lens on the 35. I want to try the Zeiss LWZ.2 15.5-45MM on the next one tho. I'm a huge fan of cine zooms lately.

Yea, the typical 450 slog s gamut, but I did use a color checker passport and graded in aces. I have no idea the technical side of aces but I feel like I can push the grade a little further. Just takes way longer without any luts
 
Man! Looks great! You very talented. F35 shines as usual. Put literally any other camera there, with the very same everything you had and did and nothing besides alexa would look as good. No FS7, no EVA1, no canon, no blackmagic. I know because I did this tests. F35 is absolute king unless you want video look. The only alternative is alexa. But F35 still looks better unless very low light.
 
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Man! Looks great! You very talented. F35 shines as usual. Put literally any other camera there, with the very same everything you had and did and nothing besides alexa would look as good. No FS7, no EVA1, no canon, no blackmagic. I know because I did this tests. F35 is absolute king unless you want video look. The only alternative is alexa. But F35 still looks better unless very low light.
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Thanks man! Totally agree tho, The F35 is very unique. In a world of crispy looking cameras such as the ones stated above, to find originality in your work is getting harder and harder. I shot some test frames for an upcoming project in low light scenarios and I really dig it. I'll attach some frames below. Not bad for tests

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bigmitch said:
Not bad for tests
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Agree, looks good for a 400iso camera :)
What the settings of the aperture/shutter angle?


Could you upload some of your test footage, please? Not only night, daylight as well. Would like to play with and see on my own eyes the noise pattern and highlight roll off. Thanks in advance.
 
DM_R said:
Agree, looks good for a 400iso camera :)
What the settings of the aperture/shutter angle?


Could you upload some of your test footage, please? Not only night, daylight as well. Would like to play with and see on my own eyes the noise pattern and highlight roll off. Thanks in advance.
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Yea the typical 400, 180. I put a clip in the google link below 12bit .dpx recorded on the Odyssey 7Q+ the night shots are a little longer so you can see the noise, daylight clips are only a few frames to save on upload time. Anyone can download so feel free if anyone else is reading this..If you do download share some frames here when your done. Would love to see what others come up with in terms of looks. (not sure on how long this link will be active ) Could be cool to do a 2021 approach on grading the F35 I believe most of the grading resources on here are around the year 2016? Not totally sure on that tho...

Night footage was T2.1 and the daytime footage im totally not sure, I didnt have any ND so prob T4-16

Cheers,

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1MRadj5ZgSK3nq8DUK-env9KpwIWlQTtg?usp=sharing
 
DM_R said:
Thanks a lot! You're only person who shared that golden footage by my request. I'm not a huge pro in grading and love some natural looks. Anyway, this footage is very important for me, thank you again!
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Haha no problem, why is the footage so important to you?
 
bigmitch said:
Haha no problem, why is the footage so important to you?
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Deciding to buy that beast vs Alexa Classic vs Komodo for my feature films. F35 is very close to Alexa in terms of highlights latitude and to Komodo in terms of motion rendering. Yes, the Komodo is not an A-cam for most of users on this forum, but in my opinion it's very close to being the option for a low-budget solo production. There's no any of them in my country, so it's the only chance to get an impression of their footage. I like the image from F35 and Arri more, but Komodo is new and could be any sized or modified depending on the shot.

The quick impression about your footage is: "Damn, these colors are typical sony colors!". But few tweaks in editor made them pretty nice and shifted the focus to an extremely wide halftone pallette. The Arri looks beteer out of the box, imo. And the noise... found it much more pleasant than from the CVP'S footage from Komodo. Without the heavy grade it's almost imperceptible.
 
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DM_R said:
Deciding to buy that beast vs Alexa Classic vs Komodo for my feature films. F35 is very close to Alexa in terms of highlights latitude and to Komodo in terms of motion rendering. Yes, the Komodo is not an A-cam for most of users on this forum, but in my opinion it's very close to being the option for a low-budget solo production. There's no any of them in my country, so it's the only chance to get an impression of their footage. I like the image from F35 and Arri more, but Komodo is new and could be any sized or modified depending on the shot.

The quick impression about your footage is: "Damn, these colors are typical sony colors!". But few tweaks in editor made them pretty nice and shifted the focus to an extremely wide halftone pallette. The Arri looks beteer out of the box, imo. And the noise... found it much more pleasant than from the CVP'S footage from Komodo. Without the heavy grade it's almost imperceptible.
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Awesome man, glad I could help!
 
bigmitch said:
Released a music video - Through The Fire super pumped on how it turned out! Just me no other crew, 99% practicals, had one soft LED on the second verse with the artist and his wife next to him in the lobby buttt thats it! Would love to hear what you guys think. Any feedback / critiques would be super helpful! Heres a few of my favorite frames. https://vimeo.com/474862420
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How did you upscale it to 4K? Just a 4k export? DaVinci? or different software?

//C
 
DM_R said:
Deciding to buy that beast vs Alexa Classic vs Komodo for my feature films.

The quick impression about your footage is: "Damn, these colors are typical sony colors!". But few tweaks in editor made them pretty nice and shifted the focus to an extremely wide halftone pallette. The Arri looks beteer out of the box, imo. And the noise... found it much more pleasant than from the CVP'S footage from Komodo. Without the heavy grade it's almost imperceptible.
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This feels a bit weird to state. F35 is certainly a camera you love or hate...but like trying to make it into an Alexa...then just get the Alexa?

I am having a DIT make me a Alexa LUT for the F35, if I am working with a producer that want that, but IMO the look of the F35 is what makes it what it is.

You get the F35 because of it's CCD colors, not to mimic CMOS ones...

Also, there are tonnes of Alexa EV floating around out there if that is your flavor.

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This feels a bit weird to state.
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I know. But consider, please, that we are from the different worlds: I live in Kiev and cannot buy an F35 from my neighbor who has already played enough with. Same with Alexa or Komodo. And color is not the most important thing for me when I chosing between them. They all produce enough colors for getting everything you want. Arris are overused with 4000+ hours, Sonys are ugly built and couldn't be serviced, Komodos just launched and have tons of bugs. But they all producing quite enough image for my humble needs.

Have you seen the bigmitch's footage? Those blue daylights out from the box... is that CCD's holy magic, which shouldn't be graded or even corrected?
 
DM_R said:
I know. But consider, please, that we are from the different worlds: I live in Kiev and cannot buy an F35 from my neighbor who has already played enough with. Same with Alexa or Komodo. And color is not the most important thing for me when I chosing between them. They all produce enough colors for getting everything you want. Arris are overused with 4000+ hours, Sonys are ugly built and couldn't be serviced, Komodos just launched and have tons of bugs. But they all producing quite enough image for my humble needs.

Have you seen the bigmitch's footage? Those blue daylights out from the box... is that CCD's holy magic, which shouldn't be graded or even corrected?
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I'm with Archduk3, if you are on the fence about an F35, don't get it. Plenty of options for "cinematic" cameras. There was a time when the F35 was a budget cinema camera, being the only high end sub $13K option. But now, just to get a cinematic level camera, the C70,Komdo, and Fx6 are going to be more flexible tools.

There are only a few available F35's floating around. Why bother if undecided? Let someone else have it that values the unique properties of this camera.
 
Bigmitch! Awesome stuff!

You have an eye and skill that obviously transcends one camera, as I think you could get good results from an 80D, but well done in choosing the F35 for its attributes, and using them as advantages for your vision. You really rolled with that. Looks fantastic!
 
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